had a few guys come in this weekend that had never hunted hogs with dogs. we tried to talk them into using knives but wanted to keep there rifles. we kick out the dogs on a real hot spot . dogs struck in about 10 min. hog wanted to run but dogs caught him after five min. shut down the hog in a briar thicket, no shot avaiable so i went in and flipped the hog and stuck him. only one dog cut bad. real nice hog. 289lb and 4 in. cutters. the guys could not believe how fast and hard these dogs hit. all in all good hunt. when i get pictures back, will post