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Need info on hunting African game?
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Here's one for you:
http://www.theoutpostmall.com/africansafari.htm
Sorry to be a smartass but a little more info, especially on post #2 will get you much more detailed responses.
Welcome to the site
http://www.theoutpostmall.com/africansafari.htm
Sorry to be a smartass but a little more info, especially on post #2 will get you much more detailed responses.
Welcome to the site
there are several levels of "Africa" you can choose to hunt.
Level one is the highest quality and experience you can possibly find.
This is found in Tanzania and Botswana and involves old style tented remote hunting camps where all the big game roams the earth just as it has for ever. These hunts are offered by limied outfitters and have a bit more limited species of game available. They tend to focus on the big five more then general plains game hunts.They usually have long minimum hunting days as well. More typical 14-and 21 day safaris. These will be in the 25K and up range for prices.
Level 2 involves a more full service camp with a lodge or formal well developed areas to base your hunt from. They will also have the game roaming the earth just as it has for 100's of years with no human boundries like highways, agriculture, or fences. These locations are common in Zimbabwe and Zambia. Hunts are usually in the 10 day to 14 day range and will start around 16-18K
Level 3 involves hunting for privately managed indiginous wild game that is contained by either fences or natural boundries identifying the land. This type of management is typical in the northern areas of South Africa and Namiba. There are more natuarally occuring species of big game in this region then anyplace else on earth. It's the only area where a hunter can still collect all the big five legally. The accomadations are almost always lodges and with decent roads to travel on. Modern appliances hot showers laundry and great service is the norm. These provinces and areas are regulated by the nature conservation to provide minimum standards for the visiting hunters. The plains game huntes here will usually be in the 4500-5500 range for ten days and 4-6 animals.
Level 4 hunting is similiar to level three but in the southern portion of RSA. The main difference is that the majority of game hunted in this location will have been moved from it's natural habitat and stocked for hunting or breeding purposes in an area it would not naturally be found. The Eastern Cape hunts in RSA are not going to involve the natural habitat or lifestyle of the animals hunted there. It's very much like hunting in Texas for exotic game. It's not natural hunting for indiginous wild game in either location.
The land costs are very low in the Eastern Cape and Farm Raising of game is a huge business there. I have visited plenty of farms which raise zebra, gemsbok, wildebeast, blesbok, etc etc. these aniamls are rasied like farm animals and sold at auction to game farms for hunters to come and shoot. The outfitters there will do there very best to side track this information but the fact is you cannot harvest game at the rates they do and not "restock the pond with trout".
The average American hunter has no knowledge of this business and is sold a bill of goods with a great show when they are there hunting. However the truth is very easy to see when you work in this business and sell 100's of animals a year to them for restocking, or just to hunt. We capture sell and transport game every month in winter from our consessions up north just exactly for this type of place. I have worked as a PH from Port Elizebeth through the Drakensburg and up to Botswana and I can tell you from many years of experience hunting 2-4 months a year there during our whole season that the difference in habitat is night and day difference from the eastern cape to the northern province.
These are not bad places to hunt for plains game. They offer a dirt cheap experience and it's often a bit of a challange. However the habitat is what makes their hunts so successful and easy. Every PH, outfitter and landowner I work with will tell you the samething. The eastern cape hunts are a dream for success compared to the northern Province. Because you can see the animals so much better and for much longer time. These hunts are short do in large part to the ease of collecting game. Although still a fun and challanging hunt.Unless you have hunted truely wild game in the natural thick bushveldt habitat they live in you cannot compare this hunt to a real hunt. They will usually be 5-7 days and run 2500 to 4500 for 5-7 animals. Obviously other arrangements can be made but this is typical.
Finally Level 5 is the canned hunt on small properties for game released right before you arrive. This is not all that much different then hunting for the non-indiginous species in level 4 but the properties are small and the game is measured and well known before the hunt starts. I have seen a hunter shoot buffalo measured the morning of the hunt in a trailler and then released on 500 acres for the "hunt" and I have seen a 33" waterbuck purchased for it's size and then released on about 200 acres for the hunt. These hunts are usually silly expensive for the most wealthy hunters who desire a "bragging rights" trophy.
That level reflects the worst kind of hunting or should I say Shooting I have ever seen.
As far as guns go,...for plains game all that is needed is 30/06 for anything bigger a 375HH is plenty. I have had almost 300 hunters through the various camps and they have shot all the big five on several occasions. Nothing beats a 375HH for easy shooting and bullet placement with enough power to cleany harvest the biggest animals if the bullets are place properly.
In the bush a long shot will be 200 yards and you will average 50 to 125 yards. You are welcome to visit my website and contact the references there. I have been running my safari business 12 years now with great success. You can easily find cheaper hunts in the Eastern Cape, but you will not likely find less cost when hunting for the natural occuring wild game we offer.
www.huntingadventures.net
Level one is the highest quality and experience you can possibly find.
This is found in Tanzania and Botswana and involves old style tented remote hunting camps where all the big game roams the earth just as it has for ever. These hunts are offered by limied outfitters and have a bit more limited species of game available. They tend to focus on the big five more then general plains game hunts.They usually have long minimum hunting days as well. More typical 14-and 21 day safaris. These will be in the 25K and up range for prices.
Level 2 involves a more full service camp with a lodge or formal well developed areas to base your hunt from. They will also have the game roaming the earth just as it has for 100's of years with no human boundries like highways, agriculture, or fences. These locations are common in Zimbabwe and Zambia. Hunts are usually in the 10 day to 14 day range and will start around 16-18K
Level 3 involves hunting for privately managed indiginous wild game that is contained by either fences or natural boundries identifying the land. This type of management is typical in the northern areas of South Africa and Namiba. There are more natuarally occuring species of big game in this region then anyplace else on earth. It's the only area where a hunter can still collect all the big five legally. The accomadations are almost always lodges and with decent roads to travel on. Modern appliances hot showers laundry and great service is the norm. These provinces and areas are regulated by the nature conservation to provide minimum standards for the visiting hunters. The plains game huntes here will usually be in the 4500-5500 range for ten days and 4-6 animals.
Level 4 hunting is similiar to level three but in the southern portion of RSA. The main difference is that the majority of game hunted in this location will have been moved from it's natural habitat and stocked for hunting or breeding purposes in an area it would not naturally be found. The Eastern Cape hunts in RSA are not going to involve the natural habitat or lifestyle of the animals hunted there. It's very much like hunting in Texas for exotic game. It's not natural hunting for indiginous wild game in either location.
The land costs are very low in the Eastern Cape and Farm Raising of game is a huge business there. I have visited plenty of farms which raise zebra, gemsbok, wildebeast, blesbok, etc etc. these aniamls are rasied like farm animals and sold at auction to game farms for hunters to come and shoot. The outfitters there will do there very best to side track this information but the fact is you cannot harvest game at the rates they do and not "restock the pond with trout".
The average American hunter has no knowledge of this business and is sold a bill of goods with a great show when they are there hunting. However the truth is very easy to see when you work in this business and sell 100's of animals a year to them for restocking, or just to hunt. We capture sell and transport game every month in winter from our consessions up north just exactly for this type of place. I have worked as a PH from Port Elizebeth through the Drakensburg and up to Botswana and I can tell you from many years of experience hunting 2-4 months a year there during our whole season that the difference in habitat is night and day difference from the eastern cape to the northern province.
These are not bad places to hunt for plains game. They offer a dirt cheap experience and it's often a bit of a challange. However the habitat is what makes their hunts so successful and easy. Every PH, outfitter and landowner I work with will tell you the samething. The eastern cape hunts are a dream for success compared to the northern Province. Because you can see the animals so much better and for much longer time. These hunts are short do in large part to the ease of collecting game. Although still a fun and challanging hunt.Unless you have hunted truely wild game in the natural thick bushveldt habitat they live in you cannot compare this hunt to a real hunt. They will usually be 5-7 days and run 2500 to 4500 for 5-7 animals. Obviously other arrangements can be made but this is typical.
Finally Level 5 is the canned hunt on small properties for game released right before you arrive. This is not all that much different then hunting for the non-indiginous species in level 4 but the properties are small and the game is measured and well known before the hunt starts. I have seen a hunter shoot buffalo measured the morning of the hunt in a trailler and then released on 500 acres for the "hunt" and I have seen a 33" waterbuck purchased for it's size and then released on about 200 acres for the hunt. These hunts are usually silly expensive for the most wealthy hunters who desire a "bragging rights" trophy.
That level reflects the worst kind of hunting or should I say Shooting I have ever seen.
As far as guns go,...for plains game all that is needed is 30/06 for anything bigger a 375HH is plenty. I have had almost 300 hunters through the various camps and they have shot all the big five on several occasions. Nothing beats a 375HH for easy shooting and bullet placement with enough power to cleany harvest the biggest animals if the bullets are place properly.
In the bush a long shot will be 200 yards and you will average 50 to 125 yards. You are welcome to visit my website and contact the references there. I have been running my safari business 12 years now with great success. You can easily find cheaper hunts in the Eastern Cape, but you will not likely find less cost when hunting for the natural occuring wild game we offer.
www.huntingadventures.net
Can't beat that for an explanation!!
Thanks jjhack.
I'm sure many peole will find your information usefull.
Someday I hope to take my Father on an African safari hunt.
I actually grew up in Senegal, where my parents were missionaries for New Tribes Mission.
Again thanks.
Cheers
Thanks jjhack.
I'm sure many peole will find your information usefull.
Someday I hope to take my Father on an African safari hunt.
I actually grew up in Senegal, where my parents were missionaries for New Tribes Mission.
Again thanks.
Cheers
