Anyone Seen This Before?

[Uncle Ji]

Hog Hunting Video- http://www.huntingfootage.com/data/513/Hog_s_a_Hurtin_.wmv

 

[BigDog]

We need to put a stop to that crap. The anti-hunter/anti-gun groups are going to use that as ammo against us.

 

[larrysogla]

Use........???????? I don't get what is supposedly wrong with this hog hunting video????? Any clarification????
What I saw was some hogs shot over a feeder, which is perfectly legitimate in some states. I have done it numerous times in Texas and I love the set-up. Looks like some nice sized hogs too. 'Nuff said.

 

[BobcatJess]

Nice Video Uncle Ji. Those are some nice looking hogs with razorback hair. Like Larrysogla, I did not see anything wrong with those videos. If I am missing something, please let us know; I am very open minded and would like to educated myself.

Thank You,
Jesse G.

 

[Lurediver]

Nope not a thing wrong with that video, that looked like some good huntin to me!

 

[Lan-Lord]

was that blood shooting up out of the 2nd pig (or was that just dust from his leg kicking)?
They successfully put the hurt on that bacon, thats fo sho!

 

[Franklin3]

That was just a little "blowby" caused by cracked lung rings or broken valves. No need to call the clean air folks out on this one.

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

IMO, I thought it was a good video. On that second pig it looked as if he was shootin a little blood in the air. To me they both are "clean" one shot kills. Every hog I have ever shot in my life does the "kick of death", its a part of hunting...

HH714

 

[larrysogla]

I have shot a 200 lb. hog on a cold October Texas morning at 7:00AM and the hog lay on it's side dead and there was a strong, steady jet of very visible steam coming out of the bullet entry hole in the torso. The jet of steam was shooting straight up for about 4 ft. above the hog and was jetting out for about 5 minutes. That was a sight. Those hogs on the video certainly were harvested with a well aimed shot with a rifle of very adequate power to bring it down and kill it quickly and humanely. Still wondering what was supposed to be "wrong" with this hunting video???? 'Nuff said.

 

[jb229]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigDog @ Mar 27 2006, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

We need to put a stop to that crap. The anti-hunter/anti-gun groups are going to use that as ammo against us.[/b]

What I think Bigdog is trying to say is that people who are apposed to hunting will see the pigs sqirming and kicking, and see that as suffering. But thats hunting. Of course some tree hugger, animal rights activist will see the video and cause a big deal becasue they are uneducated. Thats the ammo these idiots will use. Pretty cool video, but seems a little to easy to sit by a feeder and wait.

 

[Rancho Loco]

That was posted over at accuratereloading.com also...

There was some discussion over whether there should have been a finisher applied on the second pig.

As most of has seen at one time or more, pigs sometimes don't die easy or pretty ..But in my book both shots were clean, quick kills.

 

[larrysogla]

I like this video. 'Nuff said.

 

[THE ROMAN ARCHER]

uncle ji, awesome video and web site! thanks.....tra

 

[Speckmisser]

There's a reason you don't usually see the death kick or blowing blood on the hunting programs. It's a slightly more graphic depiction of death than some folks can abide, and it does tend to feed the fires of those who accuse us of being bloodthirsty killers.

That video doesn't catch the usually mixed emotion of the person who administered death to a living thing...even if it is "only a hog". And that's the part the antis don't understand about hunters... that we're not really unfeeling, cold-blooded butchers.

Nor does the video capture the fact that those hogs were probably stone dead when they hit the ground. Those were both well-placed, clean shots. The kicking and thrashing is just the body letting go of life.

Anyway, I don't know if the video itself is a damaging blow to hunters, but the reactions some people might have to it certainly don't cast us in a great light. We laugh, cheer, and joke, because we understand the whole picture of hunting and making a good kill. But to those who don't grok the whole thing, we can often look like savages rejoicing at the sight of "innocent" blood.

 

[Franklin3]

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The kicking and thrashing is just the body letting go of life[/b]

And if that makes me savage so be it Id rather be known for what i am " a predator" than a crybaby victim bunny hugging bark eater.
Don't waste your breath or your time worrying what they think of you.
They will never ever ever understand us and I for one could care less what they think.

 

[crittergetter]

Stop what? Ever seen a domestic hog slaughtered. They kick too. I've seen blood like that from one I got before. Was more of a steam than a spry. I do understand that some may not know/understand what they are looking at though. It is because tofu doesn't squeel or kick when you poke a hole in it. Most people think water comes from the faucet and meat from the store. Even if they are not a veggie many have no experience to judge by. I think people want to naturally asume that death for life is tidy and painless. Did anyone notice the first one was still moving when the second was down? There is a common sense balance when taking an animal for food and cinsidering a follow up shot. When an animal is so down hard with a properly placed shot and so near death why shoot again? It is inevitable that more meat will be lost which is the reson it was taken to begin with. That wouldn't make sense. There is never a guarantee that a follow up one or two shots will do anything quicker anyway. Only a guarntee that less of the animal will be useful for food. Part of our responsibility as hunters is to help those that have no experience understand the way life is. This is a good example of that need. That video only showed two good pigs killed with two good shots.

 

[switch]

That's hunting! Nothing wrong with the video. Both pigs down with one shot and didn't get back up.

 

[larrysogla]

With SpeckM's wise words, I could glean a little light on the subject. We are so sterile, so far away from the cow, pig, chicken mom and pop butcher shops that a little natural "harvesting" blood and gore turns people away from animal killing or more apropo to me, "animal processing". Oh my goodness. With technology and processing techniques shielded from the public eye, we are now hopelessly into generations of folks who eat animal parts(burgers, chops, steaks, roasts) and not connect it with killing and blooding the animal that starts the food processing, that feeds the billions of people on this planet. We are trapped by our own technological progress. Better keep hunting while we still can. 'Nuff said.

 

[Metdawg44]

No problem with the video to me. That's what it really looks like when you kill a large tough animal. It was a very clean kill. Nice pigs too.

 

[superduty]

IMHO, any pig that goes down and doesn't get back up on the first shot is a well placed shot. Hell, I've made an excellent shot on a pig before and seen him let's just say dead pig running.

Sometimes they can be one tough animal to put down. As for finishing them off, I believe they were doing the death kick like Speck explained. I've learned through personnal experience shooting pigs that if given the opportunity the perfect shot is a head shot.

Let's see the tree huggers try and argue to me that the pig sufferd or was still alive after taking a 300 Short Action Ultra Mag to the base of the scull.

As Larry S. would say "nuff said"