Boar Hunting

[Bullit]

Ok, I will be going pig hunting in TN late Feb. and I plan on taking two Boar. I am using my Bow for one with 100 Grain fixed 4 blade muzzy's and MY 12 Ga. Super Slug gun. single shot with riffled barrell I shoot a 385 Grain hollow Point Slug out of it, Winchester Gold Partition.

My question is, Will this 12 Ga. Bullit do the job or are thier better options?

Also for the bow hunt I plan to carry a Sig Sauer P226 9mm as a Back-up any suggestions as to what type of 9mm ammo works best?

Thanks for the help

 

[1SoCalHunter]

Bullit:
The shotgun slug should do the job just fine, counting that you are within range.
Now as far as the P226 as a backup, I don't know how the seasons are for boar in TN (CA is year round), you have to make sure that you are NOT going to a "archery only" and carrying the P226, you can get in trouble for it, keep that in mind....

 

[Kickaha]

Welcome to the JHP forums Bullit!

The boar will drop in its tracks from the slug. No worries there. Personally, I like Federal Hydra-Shocks for the 9mm. I don't have first-hand experience how they would do on a boar (and probably never will), but I'm pretty sure they'd get the job done. 9mm isn't usually used as a hunting round.

Ditto what 1SoCalHunter said on carrying a sidearm while archery hunting. The choice of ammo may also be a consideration. It is in CA. Not sure about TN.

Anyway, good luck and make sure you report back with pictures!

 

[MrMullen]

Also make sure to get a holster for your side arm that is not on your hip. If you get cold and put a jacket on and it covers the weapon, BAM, concealed weapon! I get one of holster that straps to your legs, ala, commando style.

 

[Speckmisser]

MrMullen,

Whether the weapon is considered "concealed" really depends on state law. It is worth checking the Tennessee laws, Bullit.

But even out here in California, a hunter is permitted to carry a sidearm under clothing while in the act of hunting. Just don't forget and stop off at Denny's before you take it off.

 

[RIFLEMAN]

I second what Speckmisser said. In fact, you are allowed to have your weapon concealed if you are on your way to or from hunting or camping, not just during the act of.


A 9mm would not be my first choice as a sidearm to take to the field as a backup. Whatever you do, do not buy anything FMJ'd (Full Metal Jacketed) or HP'd (Hollow Pointed). Both will limit the expansion necessary to drop the hog in his tracks. I would go with Semi-wadcutters of some design, if they make them for the 9mm.

 

[manfreddy]

i've never used a sidearm before while pig hunting (my friend, who is a guide, caries his .357, but luckily we've never needed it...knock on wood). What is an ideal sidearm for pigs? What do you guys use? Do you prefer a 12 gauge with slugs, 30-30 lever.

I haven't pig hunted too much (5 or six times), so I'm curious to know. Should be fun to hear some of the responses.


thx

 

[Speckmisser]

Manfreddy,

Might do a search and see, but there have been several rather lengthy threads about favorite pig guns.

As for a sidearm, I used to carry my Browning Hi-Power 9mm, until I got my Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 mag. That 9mm isn't much of a hunting gun, but I always figured it would do the trick as a finisher at one or two feet. The .44 on the other hand...

I generally carry my 30-06 as a long gun, although I've chased them with everything from a bow to a muzzle loader, and many things in between, including a 30-30.

 

[1SoCalHunter]

Personally as a sidegun, I prefer wheelguns and not pistols and as far as the caliber I would not carry less than a .357MAG and preferably a .44MAG

 

[manfreddy]

cool!

Thanks for the recomendations. PS, Any suggestions for .357 loads? Think I might start carrying mine.

 

[pitdog]

I use Winchester Supreme Partition Gold in .357 mag, 180gr for a Pig back up. Good for 25yrds!

 

[RIFLEMAN]

As a houndsmen, I use a .357 exclusively.

I shoot UMC 145 grain semi-wadcutters. Most every hog has dropped on the first shot.

 

[MrMullen]

Originally posted by Speckmisser@Jan 24 2003, 12:05 PM
MrMullen,

Whether the weapon is considered "concealed" really depends on state law. It is worth checking the Tennessee laws, Bullit.

But even out here in California, a hunter is permitted to carry a sidearm under clothing while in the act of hunting. Just don't forget and stop off at Denny's before you take it off.

Are you sure about that? One of the Game Wardens of San Diego County told me it's a concelled if you cover it in any way (Execpt holster). Put on a jacket, cover it and it's concelled.
Like you said, it's a county by county thing.

 

[Bishop]

I guess that just shows you how much game wardens know about the Penal Code. It's legal in California to carry a concealed handgun while hunting, fishing, going to or from. There's several threads here on it with the specific Penal code sections and wording. Do a search in the Handgun Forum.

 

[DILPRXO]

Not to start a legal debate here..because those laws are in fact on the books and I'm not a lawyer..but they are very vague and could easily construed against you.For example How do you actually define fishing, as it pertains to the law? Does the rod only have to be in your hand? Does the line have to be in the water? Do all I have to have is the pole in the trunk? etc etc etc..Hypothetically : I'm going fishing or coming home from fishing and get stopped on the freeway ..How do I actualy show thats really where I was..or on my way to? I would think that's what the prosecuting attorney would say, you wasn't enaged in the sport so the exemption doesn't apply.Then how do you prove you were? And if your at that stage..look at the time and expense your into.
Again not looking to start a flaming thread...Just wouldn't want to see someone here get into that kettle of hot water because the law is vague.

 

[Kickaha]

Dilprxo,

You can't have any loaded firearm on you or in your vehicle at any time, whether concealed or not (unless you have a permit, etc.). It refers to actually walking to or from your vehicle to a fishing spot, not from your home to a fishing spot.

Also, it's only legal where it's legal to carry a firearm in any case - which excludes certain areas. So you couldn't be walking down Hollywood & Vine with a fishing pole and a concealed firearm. This also applies to anywhere where it's not legal to carry, whether fishing or not.

Here's more info:
http://www.jesseshuntingpage.com/forums/in...27&hl=concealed

 

[RIFLEMAN]

Kickaha,

I don't believe the act of concealing a weapon from view has anything to do with whether or not the firearm is loaded.

Furthermore, it's my belief that the law does cover vehicular concealment. I was pulled over once on my way home from hunting because "my truck was muddy and the CHP officer couldn't tell if my truck had mudflaps." As my license plate said, RIFLEMN, they always ask if I have a weapon in the truck. I told him yes and that it was in my holster of my utility belt in the back of my cab . He asked me to step out of the truck. He took the revolver out, checked to see if it was loaded and then asked me what I was doing. I told him that I was coming back from hog hunting. He said that had I not been coming back from hunting, he could have seized my gun and cited me for having a concealed weapon. He gave me back my .357 and I was on my way.

 

[Speckmisser]

MrMullen,

I think the other guys have already answered your question, but yes, I'm absolutely certain about that one. I wouldn't push my luck on the way to or from a hunt, because I live in an urban area and don't want to deal with the hassle, but it's one of the few clearly written laws on the CA Penal Code.

So, your game warden was off-base.

 

[Bullit]

Ok to help end the debate I am a law enforcement and based on TN law I can Carry My firearm concealed there. I,m mainly asking for an opinion as to what type of 9mm round I should use, because I don't have a .357 or larger pistol and I am not planning on buying one in the next 5 weeks. I only have my 9mm and only plan to use it when I go bowhunting in case I need it as a finisher or just to get the pig away while I hang from the nearest tree...hahahahaha.....Thanks for al;l the great help. it really helps to have so many people to turn to for good sound advise.

 

[DILPRXO]

Kickaha
Thanks for the link....it and the info contained your post made sense and shed some light on the subject for me. However the word engaged still bothers me in the law. What actually constitutes being engages in the act.Again all those little one liners I said in the 1st post regarding for example does the line have to be in the water for me to be engaged in the act of fishing.As for hunting..Whats the difference between hunting and hiking with a gun?Absent a dead animal..How do you prove your hunting..and then again if you have game down your hunt could actually be constrewed as over, depend on what you had down.All I'm saying is..see how a lawyer could play with these against you in front of a judge.Why not just leave it exposed and avoid the hassle.
Thanks again for the info you shared with me