CA Elk Tags for 2008

DFGELK

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Thought some of you would like to see what is being proposed for tags this year. These are just proposed and I think they are correct. A few changes from last year, no new hunts (off cycle year and I could not propose any new ones). The junior hunts are now all apprentice hunts (don't ask, I had no choice, all junior hunts for everthing are now apprentice hunts). After previewing it the format does not come through that well but I think it is understandable.

Hunt Code Hunt Name 2008 Tag Quota 2008 Hunt Dates
400 Siskiyou either-sex 15 Sept. 10 - 21
401 Siskiyou antlerless 15 Sept. 10 - 21
407 Big Lagoon either-sex 10 Aug. 27 - Sept. 5
483 Northwestern California either-sex 20 Sept. 3 - 14
404 Klamath antlerless 10 Sept. 3 - 12
405 Klamath bull 10 Sept. 3 - 12
413 Del Norte antlerless 10 Aug. 27 - Sept. 5
414 Del Norte bull 5 Aug. 27 - Sept. 5
415 Marble Mountains either-sex 40 Sept. 10 - 21
408 Marble Mountains either-sex (Apprentice Hunt) 2 Sept. 10 - 21
410 Northeastern CA either-sex 10 Sept. 17-28
411 Northeastern Ca archery either-sex 9 Sept. 3-14
409 Northeastern California either-sex (Apprentice Hunt) 2 Sept. 17-28
406 Cache Creek Period 1 bull 2 Oct. 11 - 26
484 Cache Creek Period 1 bull (Apprentice Hunt) 1 Oct. 11 - 26
416 Cache Creek period 2 antlerless 2 Oct. 18 - Nov. 2
417 La Panza period 1 antlerless 6 Oct. 11 - Nov. 2
419 La Panza period 1 bull 5 Oct. 11 - Nov. 2
465 La Panza Period 1 bull (Apprentice Hunt) 1 Oct. 11 - Nov. 2
418 La Panza period 2 antlerless 6 Nov. 8 - Nov. 30
420 La Panza period 2 bull 6 Nov. 8 - Nov. 30
422 Owens Valley Region Wide Archery either-sex 5 Aug. 9 - 17
487 Bishop Period 1 Muzzleloader bull 1 Sept. 13 - 28
488 Bishop Period 1 Muzzleloader antlerless 4 Sept. 13 - 28
489 Bishop Period 2 antlerless (Apprentice Hunt) 4 Oct. 4 - 12
485 Bishop Period 3 antlerless 4 Oct. 18 - 26
490 Bishop Period 3 bull 1 Oct. 18 - 26
432 Bishop Period 4 antlerless 4 Nov. 1 - 9
491 Bishop Period 5 antlerless 4 Dec. 6 - 14
492 Independence Period 1 Archery bull 1 Sept. 13 - 28
493 Lone Pine Period 1 Muzzloader bull 1 Sept. 13 - 28
494 Lone Pine Period 1 Muzzloader antlerless 1 Sept. 13 - 28
495 Lone Pine Period 2 antlerless 2 Oct. 4 - 12
486 Lone Pine Period 2 bull 2 Oct. 4 - 12
459 Lone Pine Period 3 antlerless 2 Oct. 18 - 26
425 Lone Pine Period 4 antlerless 2 Nov. 1 - 9
429 Lone Pine Period 4 bull 1 Nov. 1 - 9
498 Lone Pine Period 5 antlerless 2 Dec. 6 - 14
473 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha AO Period 1 antlerless 6 Sept. 13 - 28
474 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha AO Period 1 bull 1 Sept. 13 - 28
475 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 2 antlerless 9 Oct. 4 - 12
477 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 3 antlerless 9 Oct. 18 - 26
478 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 3 bull 2 Oct. 18 - 26
479 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 4 antlerless 9 Nov. 1 - 9
481 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 5 antlerless 9 Dec. 6 - 14
482 Tinemaha and West Tinemaha Period 5 bull 2 Dec. 6 - 14
433 Grizzly Island period 1 antlerless 3 Aug. 12 - 15
436 Grizzly Island period 2 antlerless 2 Aug. 19 - 22
438 Grizzly Island period 2 bull 2 Aug. 21 - 24
467 Grizzly Island period 1 spike bull (Apprentice Hunt) 1 Aug. 14 - 17
449 Fort Hunter Liggett Archery only either-sex 3 Aug. 30 - Sept. 3
450 Fort Hunter Liggett Archery only antlerless 5 Oct. 9 - 13
444 Fort Hunter Liggett Period 1 antlerless 7 Oct. 9 - 13
448 Fort Hunter Liggett Period 2 antlerless 8 Nov. 26 - 30
447 Fort Hunter Liggett Period 3 bull 7 Dec. 27 - 31
471 Fort Hunter Liggett Period 1 antlerless (Apprentice Hunt) 2 Oct. 9 - 13
472 Fort Hunter Liggett Period 3 bull (Apprentice Hunt) 1 Dec. 27 - 31
461 East Park Reservoir bull period 1 2 Sept. 8 - 11
463 East Park Reservoir Period 3 antlerless 5 Sept. 6 - Oct. 2
497 San Luis Reservoir either-sex 3 Oct. 4 - 26

Joe
 

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Thanks for the update Joe. Looks like a lot of opportunities for lucky tag recipients.
Is CA is probably the only State where you have a chance at a Tule, Roosevelt or Rocky Mountain Elk? That right there is pretty awesome in my book!
 

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I'm going to show my ignorance again... what does the apprentice part of the junior hunt mean?
 

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What a greedy bass turd that Ed guy is.

I'm just glad to see the hunt still in place.
 

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Why are there fewer hunts at Grizzly Island every year?
 

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Due to some instances at Jr hunts in the past (not big game) the lawyers got involved and that is what they came up with. Apprentice meaning new hunter with lots to learn. Grizzly Island is being reduced the last couple years to allow the herd to grow again. We had been harvsting 40 elk a year off that herd for 5 years or more. With a population between 120-150 that is a pretty heavy harvest. Average age of cows was declining and the population was under 100 animals. Those elk are the healthiest elk we have in the state, prime habitat, high reproduction rate (75% of cows have calves each year). They do not utilize all the habitat available to them. I believe that herd can grow quite a bit and still be very healthy. In a couple years we will start increasing the tag #'s and in the long run more elk will be harvested. That is the smallest herd (size of their range) with the heaviest harvest in the state.
California is the only state to have tule elk, so it is the only state you can harvst all 3 species. But our Rocky Mountain and Roosevelt elk have been interbreeding up north and it is hard to find a herd with a pure strain even on the east side of the Warners. Their are pure strain individuals but we find Roosevelts and Rockies and interbreed animals within the same areas.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DFGELK @ Apr 1 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
California is the only state to have tule elk, so it is the only state you can harvst all 3 species.
Joe[/b]
Yep, good luck with that SLAM! I think a guy would be lucky to draw and kill one outta the 3.
 

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I'm sure I will qualify as an "apprentice" ...I have lots to learn...


As might as well, I will put in for this year...
 

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Thanks for the info Joe. I live down the street from Grizzly Island and switched a few years ago and started putting in for cow tags only. I have seen the numbers of tags offered go down and down every year for Grizzly Island. Hope they go up soon. I've given up trying for a Tule Bull and and I’m now going for my “Cow Slam”.
 

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I did move some tags around to combine tags into periods not only at Grizzly Island but in the Owens Valley and East Park as well. This year I think the total tags at Grizzly Island is reduced by one or two(have to check), I would not classify two years of reduced tags at Grizzly Island as "I have seen the numbers of tags offered go down and down every year for Grizzly Island". It is a short term reduction which will benefit everyone in the long run. Cows taste better than bulls anyway, never heard of anyone getting their cow slam but not a bad idea. Send me the pics when you complete it. Good Luck everyone.


Joe
 

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Joe,

Thanks for the info and what you do for the elk
 

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Thanks for the info.

How does one qualify for an apprentice tag? Age between 12 and 18???
 

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All those tags and Nonresidents can draw no more than ONE?????

Wish we would give out less than 1%
 

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CA is absolutely the stingiest on elk, antelope, and sheep in the weat! One tag each is weak. I think it should be 1 tag max per hunt, 10% total, like most states. By the way, CO is extremely generous in their NR quotas, along with WY. BTW, draw deer tags in CA have no NR limits, but CA is not the premier destination for mulie hunters.
 

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Lots of good info, thanks. Hopefully junior can pull a tag, its his first year he's able to get in on big game draws, and hes fired up!
 

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Joe
I noticed the East Park hunt is missing the period 2 hunt and period 1 has 2 tags. Why did you have to combine the hunts ? It was nice to have a hunt where you didn't have to worry about what the other guy is doing, such as both hunters setting their sights on the same bull. It was a real sweet hunt knowing it was just me and the drop-tine bull.
In '92 I drew a Surprize Valley antelope tag and I took my time looking over several bucks at 75 yards. When I decided on which buck to shoot, I put him in my scope and BAAAM !!! someone else dropped him. There was another hunter only 50 yards away from me and neither one of us was aware of eachother.

Ouch!!!
I just noticed that you got 5 cow hunters getting first crack at the herd 2 days prior and throughout the bull hunt.
 

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I combined bull tags in several hunts this year to give max point holders better chance at drawing these tags as well as decreasing the amount of time fish and game needs to be on site for these hunts. Both east park and Grizzly Island require a fish and game presence and orientation. This all takes time. The cow hunts at East Park are the same as last year. This was done in an effort to increase the opportunity for hunters to take an elk on private property. The BOR property is not open to cow hunters during the bull hunt and only 2 hunters will be on the property hunting at the same time. Our MOU with the BOR states 3 periods of 4 days open to hunting. I am hoping that more elk will be harvested on private property and the longer season (implemented last year) should help that. Last year one cow was taken on private property because most of the cow group was at the BOR property with the lower water level and green eats as the water was drawn down. I am hoping this year will be more like normal with several cow groups on private property as well as the BOR piece. The hunters are going to have to communicate, but I think there are enough nice bulls to go around on the property. It is nice to have a hunt to yourself but I think this will work out very well.

Joe
 

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I guess I'll just have to share that property with the other tag holder.
 


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