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Tule Elk Boom a Problem. Hunting is 1st Choice Solution  

Knight Ridder Newspapers

12/13/01

Birth control? Moving? Or hunting? Wildlife managers trying to handle California's growing tule elk population have few easy options.

More benign controls — especially contraception and relocating animals — are being questioned on biological and ethical grounds. Studies are under way to see how contraception affects the gene pool of wild animals, an important issue for recovering species such as tule elk, which have almost no genetic variety.

Marin County's Point Reyes Nation Seashore, home to about 525 tule elk, has perhaps the most visible and studied elk herd on the planet. There, a five-year experiment is under way to study an immuno-contraceptive vaccine that prevents females from breeding for a mating season.

But while the shot prevents most pregnancies, it has proven only to slow population growth, not stop it. And critics point out that at $300 per shot, the vaccine is too costly and impractical for free-ranging animals.

State relocation programs also continue, moving about 1,150 tule elk in the past 30 years. But most of the suitable habitat has disappeared or is already overcrowded with elk.

Moving elk is also expensive — it can cost upward of $3,000 per animal, with population reductions that usually last less than three years. As this program fades out, wildlife officials say, hunting remains the state's first choice.

"The public doesn't want to see a slaughter," said Susan Shideler, an endocrinologist at the University of California, Davis who works with the Point Reyes contraception project
 

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If I were King of the DFG, first thing I'd do is ban Susan Shideler from having anything to do with the state's Tule Elk.

Second, I'd leave the number of tags earmarked for hunting Tule's the same.

Third, I'd follow in the footsteps of Teddy Roosevelts hugely successful Rocky Mountain Elk tranplant program except I'd be transplanting herds of 100 Tule Elk at a time.

Washington State received a handful of herds (ca. 100 head/herd) through TR's Elk program.  The Mt. St. Helen's herd is around 16,000 head now.  And other herds are approaching 10,000.  All from less than 1000 Elk planted less than a hundred years ago.

If Susan really loved Elk, she'd advice them to "Let 'em Breed!!!"
 

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I am in favor of letting the hunters take the surplus.            Fubar
 

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Hunting is a best and most cost effective way to control overpopulation. Who here would'nt pay 500-1000 dollars to hunt these elk?
The DGF needs to get it's act together....
 

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Bring them down here in so. Cal to Big bear and Wrightwood. A d-14 elk tag sounds pretty good. Do tule elk live in these types of terain now or just in the tule bogs?
Brian
 

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Jesse,
   Excuse my ignorance but what is a tule elk,are they the same size as a normal elk.And what areas of US do they reside.A picture would be neat to see.
 

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Tule Elk are only found in California lowlands. They are a tad bit smaller than the Rocky Mountain Elk.
  Another problem on relocating Tule Elk is that ranchers don't want them on there lands. They destroy alot of property. As I said above they only habitat low foothill propety which is almost all private land. They will not stay in the high country or I don't think it would be a big deal.
 

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russ,

here's some pics of some Tule elk from Fort Hunter Liggett from last spring. I was filming this group when the little cow got nervouse about something. The meadow and valley I was in was fairly flat and about 2 miles long and 1 mile across with no trees or cover. It's just past training area 16 as you head out from the post.

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I couldn't see anything to spook the elk but I knew something wasn't right. I got up on top my truck and started glassing and saw a yote circling the elk on the back side. Having seen this trick before I started looking for the 2nd yote since the first yote looked like a diversion. Yep, there he was right out in front of me bellycrawling up a little fold in the ground trying to get close to the smaller cow. The cows spotted the 2nd yote and started stomping around and getting into a defensive positon closer together. I couldn't get the 2nd yote on film since he was hugging too low in the grass.

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All of a sudden the smaller cow took off after the 1st yote and chased him clean over the horizon. That poor yote would run about 300 yards and slow down to look back and here she came, he'd take off for another gallop and look back and she was still there. After about 1/2 mile I could see the yote was not amused and jsut wanted the cow to leave him alone but she stayed after him until they both went over the ridge into the timber. I was laughing my butt off the whole time. Maybe she had an earlier score to settle.

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Sport hunting on a controlled permit basis would be the best way to control elk #'s.  
Unfortunitly Pt. Reyes is owned and managed by the National Park Service.  They are not hunter friendly, and hunting is not allowed on most National Park lands (there are a few exceptions).  

In addition it is just north of Frisco and adjacent to Marin Co. both centers of anti-hunting liberals.  They would go ballistic.
 

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Prohunter and Spectr17,
   Thank you for the info and great pictures,I live in Tennessee no Tule Elk here.But TWRA  has recently stocked Elk on Royal Blue Wildlife Management Area.Its about 30 minutes from my home,I hope they do as well here as they have in Ky and Pa.  
 

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