CA wild pigs under attack

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just got this from SCI

Member Alert​

Oppose California AB 2805

SCI strongly opposes AB 2805, legislation that could destroy wild pig populations. Please use SCI's Action Center to contact your state legislators now and tell them you oppose AB 2805. Assembly Bill 2805 is scheduled to be heard in the Assembly Water, Parks and Wildlife Committee April 10 at 9:15 a.m. in Room 444 of the State Capitol. After contacting state legislators, go the next step and contact the bills' author, Frank Bigelow, and tell him you are opposed to this bill. Call his office at (916) 319-2005, fax him at (916) 319-2105 or email him at assemblymember.bigelow@assembly.ca.gov. Potential effects of AB2805: The wild pig would lose its game mammal status and be reclassified as non-game, exotic or another designation that would allow them to be killed in large numbers by any means; Wild pigs could be trapped and killed in the traps and possibly even poisoned. These methods could affect non-targeted animals as well as the pigs; The requirements for property owners to obtain a permit to kill depredating wild pigs and to report on the number killed would be eliminated, thus doing away with any Department of Fish and Wildlife (DFW) oversight and recordkeeping needed for proper management of wild pig populations; Landowners could freely kill pigs by claiming they are threatening their property. The pigs would no longer be managed under the principles of scientific wildlife management, but by politics, speculation and emotion; Would repeal the requirement that DFW notify landowners of the option to use hunting as a means of reducing the number of wild pigs on their property; and Wild pig tag/validation money could no longer to be used by DFW to engage in programs that benefit wild pigs, and thus hunters, but could be used instead to develop "management" that could authorize the indiscriminate killing of pigs on a large scale by property owners. Using hunting-generated fees in this manner is unethical.

 

[Fredezee]

Well... I definitely don't like it. BUT, they've been around since the 1700's. Classified as game in 1950's. I don't think they will be able to eradicate them. Pig hunting is still in high demand and Land owners and Guides who lease properties will definitely be managing herds instead of wiping them out. People pay big bucks to hunt pigs. One other thing that may help us hunters out is... and I hate to bring them up... PETA and HSUS will step in to save the cute wittle piggy wiggies. lol. They will not allow the indiscriminate killing of pigs. Look at the effort they are doing for coyotes. They are already trying to stop us from killing them. I don't think they will turn a blind eye to the government or say "go ahead and kill them all!" That goes against everything they have been working for. People that live in rural areas surrounding the bay area are mostly against any form of hunting or killing wildlife. They love wildlife visiting their properties so there will be safe havens for them here and there. Texas is trying hard to put a big dent in the population and they are having lots of trouble trying to control them. Wild Pigs aren't going anywhere. GO PIGGIES!

 

[Bankrunner]

Remind me why this bill is bad....I like it.
At face value it eliminates paying $22 for a tag to harvest one pig.

 

[nickman123]

Isn't this the way Texas classifies wild hogs? And from what I've read, the hog numbers there just keep growing. Always thought it was kinda strange the way Cali treated feral hogs as "game animals" when they wiped out goats and deer from some of the channel islands for being "non-native"

 

[iforge03]

I think it's a good thing. Don't have to overpay for a tag for an animal that fish and game doesn't manage anyways. And you know darn well if property owners don't want them, property owners will shoot them without worrying about a depredation permit or buying a tag.

 

[Wino]

They are an evasive species and should be treated as such. It would be a good thing for ground-nesting birds like quail and turkey.

 

[THE ROMAN ARCHER]

Like I always say, “ California is a greedy state “ and have been taking advantage of hunters for years knowing their desire to hunt wild pigs in that state it’s easy money for tags especially cali is one of the tuffest places to hunt wild pigs most land is private and public land to hunt is few and far and pounded. It’s funny how all the other states have wild pigs classified as non game animals that are destructive invasive but in cali they can reclassify a non game to game animal stays and then vice versa if they want, chit why don’t they just make coyotes game animal status so they can sell tags to make money too like wild pigs. How many states classify wild pigs as game status besides cali?.......tra

p.s. In cali I am sure they can reclassify the sex of a wild pig tooo....lol

 

[canamrider07]

The only thing wrong with that bill is Poisoning.
Feral hogs in Texas hunting regulations

Landowners or their agents are allowed to kill feral hogs on their property without a hunting license if feral hogs are causing damage. However, any landowner that plans to trap or snare hogs should have a valid Texas hunting license, since these activities could affect other wildlife species.

If you are a landowner and you want to eat the hog then you are supposed to get a license. If you are not a landowner and or agent of a landowner than you need a license to hunt hogs.
Poisoning is not allowed.
But this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5dgRRQ8K7g

 

[Stevehazard]

When I read the actual bill for this before I think the poison thing is a bit of hysteria to encourage people to oppose the bill. The bill itself doesn't mention poison at all. Somebody is inferring that it may allow poison because it isn't specifically prohibited by this specific bill. But this is CA, do we really think that they would allow people to poison things as large as pigs with all the protections the condors get in this state? I realistically don't see that happening. As for the rest of bill... were not forced to pay $22 per pig anymore... I mean oh no! Does DFG even show or disclose how that money is spent?

 

[KTKT70]

Really. So the DFG is in the business of giving up income now.?? I would love to see hogs treated here as they are in Texas. They are not game animals and never have been. They are a pest that just happens to be yummy on the BBQ. This will all be interesting to see how it plays out. I also agree that California will never let the hogs be poisoned. That could have all kinds of environmental problems for the tree hungers.

 

[canamrider07]

From what is posted above, hunters would still have to pay a fee to hunt pigs, the money collected would be used differently?

 

[Wild1]

1. You would still have to pay to hunt hogs, and possibly pay more. If the bill passes, the "tag" would now be called a "wild pig validation", which would cost $15.00 and could be increased "pursuant to a specified inflation index." In addition, a "tag" could be implemented at a later date (be careful what you ask for).

2. The bill was/is largely supported by the farm/agriculture industry - it would allow for the immediate eradication of any pig(s) found within crops, without obtaining a depredation permit

3. The bill would prohibit the use of poison.

 

[CottonwoodHunting]

2. The bill was/is largely supported by the farm/agriculture industry - it would allow for the immediate eradication of any pig(s) found within crops, without obtaining a depredation permit

That's already allowed per Immediate Take (FGC §4181.1).

just got this from SCI

Landowners could freely kill pigs by claiming they are threatening their property. The pigs would no longer be managed under the principles of scientific wildlife management, but by politics, speculation and emotion;

Landowners, tenants and employees can already shoot pigs threatening property-- no tag needed. No hunting license needed. Spotlighting okay. Any hours 24/7 okay. See Immediate Take (FGC §4181.1).

 

[norcaljc]

p.s. In cali I am sure they can reclassify the sex of a wild pig tooo....lol[/QUOTE]
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