California Teachers in Crisis

chapgirl48

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Dear Fellow JHOers

I am a California teacher. I have been teaching for 10 years now. I recently changed school districts, moving my family to a mountain community. I did this because we are an avid outdoor family. The quality of life in our community is something you can't find in the city. I love my job and am great at it. I bring many of my outdoor experiences and resources into my classroom. My students' education is enriched with the use of these outdoor resources. I also love having my family and career in the same place.

Unfortunately, after changing school districts, I find myself at the bottom of the seniority list. And with the budget crisis I also have been told that my teaching position, at this point, has been eliminated for the following school year. I am out of a job. I am not the only one. Thousands of teachers in the state of California have found themselves in the same situation. We are not just talking about new teachers....many like myself with ten years of experience are getting let go because of the threat of funding being cut in education. This affects us all.

I am hoping that there are some of you that are concerned voters, parents and or educators yourselves that will join me in writing letters so that our voices are heard. We want to keep quality educators. We want to continue to support our children and future of our state and country.

Please check out this link. It will only take seconds to make your voice heard. Hopefully educational funding and our children will not be hurt by these proposed budget cuts.

http://capwiz.com/nea/ca/utr/2/?a=10817581&i=1234&c=

It really only takes seconds!

Thanks So Much!!
 

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I have one question for you, how much money was cut from admin overhead and how many administrators or their assistants are being cut? Answer would be none, at least that is the answer at my daughters school district...
My niece is also being cut because she is a newbie/non tenured and I have friends who are teachers that have told me they pay for paper and supplies out of their own pockets. I commend teachers everywhere for their hardwork and wonder why this has gotten so out of hand that the first laid off are our teachers...
We have helped get our neighbors elected to the school boards and my wife is a site councelor, in order to assure the money is spent on our children and their teachers.
Thanks chapgirl and don't give up...
 

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I've been in your shoes, and it isn't fun. I'll be praying for you and your family. Hopefully you will be recalled or hired at a nearby district.
 

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Sorry for your circumstances, but I have a hard time being empathetic. If the teachers union ( and I am a trade union member myself) would stop supporting the illegal alian movement, surley there would be more reasorces to go around. I live in NH which has only a property tax to fund the school system. It is bitter sweet as we have very good local controll but there is very little state support. I allways vote for the default budget and against the superintendant as a means to keep my tax burden low. I do not beleive in educational collectivism. Other peoples children are there responsablity, including there education. How about teaching at a private school? S/T
 

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Sadly with all of California's budget woes, they will need to cut everywhere.

How much would be in the budget if only citizens were in school?
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (foulshot @ Mar 20 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Sadly with all of California's budget woes, they will need to cut everywhere.

How much would be in the budget if only citizens were in school?[/b]
Sadly, we will never know. Just another instance of the average joe having to support the illegals.
 

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You have my sympathy, however in this budget crunch, cut backs are necessary. Incredibly in these hard econonmic times our liberal legislatures at the State and National level want to significantly increase our tax burdens. Yes indeed, illegal immigration is a significant contributor to the consumption of tax dollars.
 

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As a former card carrying vested member of the carpenters union I agree, in th cutbacks. There is far too much dead weight in unions and holding out for the paycheck only and could care less about what they were hired for. The whole Tenure thing is a joke. Tell me why someone shouldl not be able to lose their job if they don't perform?

ML
 

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I don't know about Ca, but here in NY virtually all the blame can be placed at the door of the unions..'

..And for the following reasons ( at least in NY):

!) Considering that the job with the many holidays, only requires about 4.5 days work per week.

2) they only work some 9 to 10 months of the year.

3) they have a very lucrative retirement package that they do not need to pay state income tax on.

4) For the above reasons, the pay is quite decent..
...although I do sympathize with what some treachers have to put up, from both administration and some students.

5) Incompetents cannot be fired, so the competent teachers must do double duty to "cover" for them.

6) Few unions will accept testing and a merit pay system, as used in other industries.
Merit pay would take money away from incompetents and pay the hard working teachers a bonus, thus the bummers
would flake off and more qualified people would be interested in the profession.

7) I understand that recently, the unions persuaded a sympathetic judge to require the home schooled students
to attend CA public schools..this won't help ! These children's parents are already paying school taxes, so if this bonehead
ruling holds, there will be no more money but many.... more students.

8) Unions do not like to have their teachers compete fairly. Teachers should take competency exams regularly and be
graded upon how well their students do, taking into consideration the makeup of the "raw material"..
They also do not like to see schools compete. However, it is time that they faced the "real World"; corporations compete in many
ways and individuals in these corporations also compete withe each other inj nthe work force. Competition improves everything !
By fighting the competetive aspects, they are showing cold disregard for the students.


For these and other reasons, you should be getting on your union's back !
 

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Locally, we were told that the teachers and non-represented employees would see a 10% (min.) cut across the board.
The district and executive staffing were only giving up their 4.49% COA raise for the next year.
 

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Teachers are being let go here in the Oceanside School District.
Yet Administrative people, friends of mine, have been handed their pick slips in the Carlsbad School District.
Go figure.
Then my neighbor, a retired teacher, informs me that his daughter, a new hire, has been given a new contract up in Perris.
Is it just the Unions to blame?
Maybe not.

Arnold has to go.
Pure and simple.

And they say that this State is the 8th or 9th largest industrial power in the world?

Too many Boneheads steering the ship.

And yes. The alien population has taken it's toll.
But if you can fill a classroom and get a few bucks for each kid.
Then what's the States problem.

Mismanagement.
 

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$9500 per year per kid, x 30 kids in the classroom = $285,000 per year, per classroom! And the school real estate is paid for.

Where the hell is all our money going??????????????????
 

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I had my kids in private school before I moved. How does a private school provide twice the education at half the cost? Maybe we should privatize the whole damn system and scrap our failed socialist educational experiment.
 

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How much per year was the private school Hitech?
Probably a good tax write off.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmoniz @ Mar 21 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
How much per year was the private school Hitech?
Probably a good tax write off.[/b]
Right now I pay over $700 a month for Jr. high and Kindergarten, based on 10 months payments.

I'm pretty sure the teachers at my kids school make less than that of their public school counterparts, and most of them hold a Masters degree in Education.
 

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Private school costs: 7 grand for lower elementary and 9 to 10 grand for up through HS. This does not include the cost of "Fair Share" programs for electives and sports; which (btw) are also assessed in public schools locally.
Last year, we had several parents of students in the senior class that refused to pay their "fair share"; citing that it was part of a class, and public education is supposed to be 'no cost'. Our booster organization took a 12-grand hit for those families.
 

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No tax write off for private education tmoniz. I have to make $12,000, pay the govt. $4,000 for all the wonderful things they provide me, then pay the private school $8,000 for my child's education. If all the private school people would go enroll their kids in public school for one year the system would collapse. I think they should demand at least to get the tax deduction on the $8,000 for the 9500 the state is saving. The system is broken and there is no one with stones enough to stand up to the teachers union to fix it. I hope things work out for you chapgirl, good teachers are a valuable asset. Unfortunately the system is more about money and politics than teachers and students.
 

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Marty;
What is this "fair share" charge ? Don't folks pay school taxes in CA even if they don't have kids in the public school system ? Here in NY, everybody who owns real estate, pays school taxes. I pay the taxes and don't have any kids in the system, my son & daughter-in-law pay taxes and home school their daughter.
If your tax system is the same, I hardly believe the public school took the hit..but more appropriately, the home schooling parents "took the hit", having gotten little for their tax money..and then being assed more for the little of the public school thay did use.
I would think that unless EVERYBODY in these "fair share" programs (public or private schooled) pay for the "extra"..then no one should.

Tmoniz;

No, the quandary is not all caused by the unions, but I mentioned that because as a teacher (the original poster), that is one area where she can voice a concern.
Yes; administrations are just as guilty, if not more so ! Where I live it appears that the local school administration and the teacher's union are working together..to keep spending..and keep raising taxes; and all this in an economically dying area !

I don't know much about Ahhhnold..but what I see I am not too impressed with! He must have run as a Republican simply because there was an open slot Democratic there, since he seems to have few if any, conservative values.
..But being brutally candid, and I don't say this as an accusation or in any mean spirit..much (not all, of course) of the west coast lifestyle seems foreign to much of the "heartland". I live in far western NY state, and of course, the east coast lifestyle and attitudes seem
strange to us..other worldly, I guess, since we are more like midwesterners.
I could be faulted in this, but both coasts seem to have a "superiority complex", particularly NY City..Folks there seem to think the world revolves around them..the navel of the world, so to speak. Most folks around here view NY City as another aperture..
and that not the navel..


Sure, I know I sound "country fried" ..but I like it that way, as apparently most in "fly over country" do.. And of course, this
still means much to us ! Perhaps that is the difference..
In any case, that's my $.02..may be worth that much to you and may not, you can keep the pennies or ditch them ...LOL
 

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I am a union member(pretty much forced to join CTA), and must agree that the unions cause problems. But the major problem is not the union, remember public schools are run by the GOVERNMENT.
 

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I really am ignorant to what actually happened to this State and it's budget whoes.
They just sunk a ton of money into renovating the Schools around here.
Which they needed to because the schools were in very poor shape.
I quit teaching because I wasn't making a living after 7 years of College.

When I drive (well not lately) up and down the Central Valley I'm to this day awe struck by what is produced in this State. Anything and everything you want to consume is grown here. Now they've built huge Dairies again.
I mean they are massive.

How such a diverse and industrious part of the world could be in a financial quandry is beyond me.

The first few years my wife worked for the Health Dept, she was paid to make sure the alien population did not expose the resident population to certain deseases.
The alien population has taken it's toll on this State. Big time.
My neighbor bad mouths them daily.
But guess who's digging his front yard up as we speak.

Chap. I think your situation really sucks.
Hopefully it will come around for you.
It's hard to find good people that have a passion for teaching.
 

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