Deforming shoulder

k_rad

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From left to right. First one is following directions from Lee dies. I keep backing off to get the neck sized but no shoulder deformation. Will I have to loose 5 cases Everytime I go through this???


send from my stupid smart phone...
 

OPAH

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Why not reverse the process, start short and then lengthen until you get deformation and then back off? seems it would be only one case under that scenario. Not a pro re-loader just getting into it, But don't you size the neck when you de-prime and crimp the neck when you seat the bullet? Please forgive my lack of knowledge
 

k_rad

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Those look like new brass. Are you getting that by simply seating a bullet?
all un-fired, new, Nosler brass. trimmed to length and de-burred. die set up as per instructions from Lee Dies. I have an old Rock Chucker press. I wonder if that is the variable??
 

k_rad

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Why not reverse the process, start short and then lengthen until you get deformation and then back off? seems it would be only one case under that scenario. Not a pro re-loader just getting into it, But don't you size the neck when you de-prime and crimp the neck when you seat the bullet? Please forgive my lack of knowledge
good suggestion. This is what I will do next time for sure. Was just trying to follow instructions to the letter. There was no de-priming because this is brand new brass...
 

k_rad

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Are you just trying to neck size or full length size? What die are you using?
Neck size. I bought New brass Nozler 280 for my 270 Win. I just had it set too low. Think I have it right now. just waiting on my hand primer for next step.
 

ltdann

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I knew it, operator error!

But seriously, I've never had that happen to me before. I do occasionally get neck collapse from over lubrication, usually after I put fresh silicone on the pad.

I'd have to double check, but I believe I'm using full length carbide dies...

Why would you want to only size the neck, anyone know?
 

k_rad

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I knew it, operator error!

But seriously, I've never had that happen to me before. I do occasionally get neck collapse from over lubrication, usually after I put fresh silicone on the pad.

I'd have to double check, but I believe I'm using full length carbide dies...

Why would you want to only size the neck, anyone know?
IDK. I was following directions that said I didn't need to use the die that punched out the primer and resized in one go?. Because this is brand new brass?,... So I only had to resize the neck?...I guess this is a question for a Marine sniper not a Navy guy who DROVE the Marine sniper to the fight!
 

Mr. Luckypants

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Seriously?! I bought a set of four. All set up now. Are they really that bad? This is getting expensive...
They work differently than a "regular" set of dies. I believe they squeeze the necks instead of using the expander ball. If it's not setup properly then you'll get bulge like this. I would pull the handle down then install the die until it touch then stop and tighten.
 

lngrnghunter

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no PM received .I think I got some 270 brass new and once fired . why would u use 280 brass for a 270.the 280 at the shoulder is 2.199 the 270 is 2.156
 

k_rad

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no PM received .I think I got some 270 brass new and once fired . why would u use 280 brass for a 270.the 280 at the shoulder is 2.199 the 270 is 2.156
Sorry I sent an email... I have been on a few different reload forums and was told 280 was perfectly acceptable since the 270 bullet is actually .277
 


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