diesel is killing me

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BelchFire @ Apr 24 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Maybe while you're hauling that empty tanker back down into "the old country", you could take a truckload of illegals with you. I mean since it's going to be an illegal venture from the start.


quack-head. Even at $4.20 a gallon, will the increased fuel mileage make the cost per mile less?[/b]
Do you really need a answer for the formula you already laid out?


Seems like everyone today is full throttle from beginning to end.


I am self employed, Right now I am using a 2006 GMC canyon for my service truck. I cruise no more than 60 mph. I can get 25-27 mpg out of it. I get 15-18 out of my diesel. But, it is loaded down. I cruise no more than 60 in it also. Yea, I am the guy on I-5 going 60 with the chocolate lab hanging out the window...

If I was is a hurry I would have left the day before.
 



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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quack_head @ Apr 24 2008, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Drive at a slower speed! The less rpms you spin that diesel the less fuel it uses. You still can't beat a diesel. Even at 4.20 a gallon. It is less than 20.00 dollars differnce to fill 44 gallons 4.19-3.80.[/b]
My F250 doesn't care if I'm doing 6800 or 7400 rpm, the MPG are still the same. Now just multiply that $20 on how many more times I'm filling up, there is a difference.

If you drive 60, I hope you stay in the slow lane.
 

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I have long thought that deisle is the answer to our fuel problem. It is blendable and has more btu per unit. I think the problem is the mamouth engines that are in the pick up trucks. Consider that Evenrude out-boards claim more power and fewer emisions that popular 4 stroke motors of the same size. Why can't that technology be aplied to the small (older) Detriot 2 stroke deisles like the 3-53 or 4-53 or for the power hungery a 6V71? I bet an engine set up the way an Evenrude is would give 40 mpg at crusing speed, and have enough power to pull a barn sideways down the road. We have to stop asking for big displacment and start asking for technological advancement. S/T
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (foulshot @ Apr 27 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quack_head @ Apr 24 2008, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Drive at a slower speed! The less rpms you spin that diesel the less fuel it uses. You still can't beat a diesel. Even at 4.20 a gallon. It is less than 20.00 dollars differnce to fill 44 gallons 4.19-3.80.[/b]
My F250 doesn't care if I'm doing 6800 or 7400 rpm, the MPG are still the same. Now just multiply that $20 on how many more times I'm filling up, there is a difference.

If you drive 60, I hope you stay in the slow lane.
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Totally impossible,

I don't know of a diesel that spins 6800 rpm. If you are spinning 68-7400 in your gas rig, well then you have no concern for fuel economy.

Your diesel puts out 79 cc per cylinder @45% load @ 2800 rpm. Lower the speed to 2000 rpm load will decrease with engine speed. 2000 rpm at 38% load at 66 cc per cylinder. Thats 2 gallons. Just over.

These are just a example.

I would get killed in the fast lane. I am out here in the farm land anyway.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (swampy tim @ Apr 27 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I have long thought that deisle is the answer to our fuel problem. It is blendable and has more btu per unit. I think the problem is the mamouth engines that are in the pick up trucks. Consider that Evenrude out-boards claim more power and fewer emisions that popular 4 stroke motors of the same size. Why can't that technology be aplied to the small (older) Detriot 2 stroke deisles like the 3-53 or 4-53 or for the power hungery a 6V71? I bet an engine set up the way an Evenrude is would give 40 mpg at crusing speed, and have enough power to pull a barn sideways down the road. We have to stop asking for big displacment and start asking for technological advancement. S/T[/b]
Wow, them italian diesels have to many moving parts in them.


Man, them thump thump engines just could not make emissions today. Hey, they where ahead of their time back then.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (foulshot @ Apr 27 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
My F250 doesn't care if I'm doing 6800 or 7400 rpm, the MPG are still the same. Now just multiply that $20 on how many more times I'm filling up, there is a difference.

If you drive 60, I hope you stay in the slow lane.[/b]

ZACH you run that PowerJoke I mean Ford at 6800 RPM? My CTD red lines at 3100. Best mileage if if I can keep it under 2000 RPM.

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I'm thinking that he had a truck in a previous life that had the tach and the speedo backwards from the Ferd.
 

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I got rid of the F-250 PowerStroke! I am now in a Dodge 5.7 Hemi. 18.5 on the Highway, more than the diesel and $1.00 less per gal. I don't have ta worry about the $80.00 oil changes or the cost of the diesel anymore!
 

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I took a Detroit class years ago and the instuctor told us that the Detroit could be tuned to run as clean as any engine. It is all a matter of adjusting the valve timming. Why couldn't the new technology being used on 2 stroke outboards be employed on say a new version of a Detroit 2 stoke? Then burn blended diesle and abolish this friggin' ethinol BS. S/T
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richardoutwest @ Apr 28 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I got rid of the F-250 PowerStroke! I am now in a Dodge 5.7 Hemi. 18.5 on the Highway, more than the diesel and $1.00 less per gal. I don't have ta worry about the $80.00 oil changes or the cost of the diesel anymore![/b]
Thats pretty good Rich. What do you get when you load it down?
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (swampy tim @ Apr 28 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I took a Detroit class years ago and the instuctor told us that the Detroit could be tuned to run as clean as any engine. It is all a matter of adjusting the valve timming. Why couldn't the new technology being used on 2 stroke outboards be employed on say a new version of a Detroit 2 stoke? Then burn blended diesle and abolish this friggin' ethinol BS. S/T[/b]
92 series had electronic controlled injectors in there later life. With the emission standards today and the last couple of years. The 2 stroke technology could not compete with the market that Cummins and Caterpillar have in the 4 cycle engine. Detroit is still the leader in innovation. There are more 60 series Detroit's on the highway than any other engine.

The new technology is a common fuel rail. Before, injectors relied on a integral pump. Cam, injection pump, etc. They could control the timing within a range. The pump that made the pressure restricted the ability for total timing control.

The common rail fuel system is a rail with high pressure continuous. So, injection timing can be controlled more precise. Most diesel engines now have a pre injection before the power injection occurs. Turbochargers are variable now. The list goes on.

All ends to one thing. If you are going to own a new diesel, buy the longest warranty you can. You will not be able to afford the cost of failed parts.
 

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Ever think of biodiesel? A buddy of mine is looking at making his own w/the possibility of selling what he doesn't use...just a thought.
See the link below about processor

LINK
 

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quack-head, loaded it is getting around 12.5 heavy and in hill country. 18.5 is putting along around 62 mph. For a gas engine, it pulls the hills pretty good. Like I said, it is the first Dodge I have ever owned, they seem to be everywhere!
 

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Converting trucks/cars to NG is big business in AZ. If you have NG in your home, you can fill up in your garage for less than a $1/gal.

I think it cost $3-4K for the conversion, but that would pay for itself quite fast and there is a tax rebate too I believe. You get to drive the diamond lane too.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richardoutwest @ Apr 29 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
quack-head, loaded it is getting around 12.5 heavy and in hill country. 18.5 is putting along around 62 mph. For a gas engine, it pulls the hills pretty good. Like I said, it is the first Dodge I have ever owned, they seem to be everywhere![/b]
12.5 loaded is not bad at all. I could live with that. I had a 2004 gmc with the 8.2 gas. I had that truck loaded. Compressor, crane, tools, etc. It pulled the grapevine real good. But, it would use the fuel up under that load.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richardoutwest @ Apr 28 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I got rid of the F-250 PowerStroke! I am now in a Dodge 5.7 Hemi. 18.5 on the Highway, more than the diesel and $1.00 less per gal. I don't have ta worry about the $80.00 oil changes or the cost of the diesel anymore![/b]
200K miles from now lets see what the resale value is. I think the diesels are just getting broken in about that point.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dubya D @ Apr 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Ever think of biodiesel? A buddy of mine is looking at making his own w/the possibility of selling what he doesn't use...just a thought.
See the link below about processor

LINK[/b]

Ive considered the waste vegetable oil, but have a concern about making sure I can find enough WVO to be able to process enough fuel.

ML
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mntngoat @ Apr 30 2008, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dubya D @ Apr 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ever think of biodiesel? A buddy of mine is looking at making his own w/the possibility of selling what he doesn't use...just a thought.
See the link below about processor

LINK[/b]

Ive considered the waste vegetable oil, but have a concern about making sure I can find enough WVO to be able to process enough fuel.
ML
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Are you kidding me? There is a McDonalds, Burger King, Jack n Box on every corner.
 

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blah blah blah!!!! You want a real solution, get yourself one of these bad boys!

 

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Coues, is there enough pressure in a residential natural gas line to fill a vehicle tank? I used to drive a company car that ran on both NG and gasoline and when refilling the NG it took forever to top it off due to the pressure requirement -- and this was at an industrial refill station. Would a homeowner need an additional compressor/pump/tank for the refill? And what about homeowner insurance issues for a home refill system, any risks? The company car did well on the NG and then auto switched to gasoline when the NG tank was empty, if a person could refill at home, NG would seem like a good deal for local commuting. Meanwhile I'm still happy with my 7.3 Superduty (for recreational use only).
 

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