Environmental Nuts at Camp Roberts

[Boar Tracks CA]

Ok I'm mad as hell now. I just found out that the tree huggers on base have hired a hunter to come in and shoot hogs because of a rare flower. He came in mon. I don't know if he shot any hogs yet but that p!@@#$s me off. They did not tell DFG about it I don't think. And right before a pig hunt to. I just don't get it. To let the treehuggers Know how you feel you can call them atCamp Roberts environmental office.(805) 238-8043,And make sure to tell them at the DFG game shack on sat to.
And don't woory about the number of hogs I saw a group of 14 today so they are still here and I don't think they are going anywhere.


PS : Please Don't tell them I told you about the info. I still want to keep my job here.
thanks

 

[Shot]

Thanks boar tracks for letting us know about it. After I am finish with this post I am going to give them a call them and let them have my

worth.

Are people getting stupider or just ignorant? Damn treehuggers

All of us (JHPers) could go on and on about these types of organizations/peoples

 

[Cda55]

Do you know what they're driving and if they'll be there this weekend?

 

[GUNNER5569]

HEY NEXT TIME THEY NEED A HUNTER TELL THEM TO CALL ME AND IM SURE I CAN FIND SOME ONE TO GO WITH ME I DONT REALY CARE ABOUT THE FLOWERS I JUST LIKE TO SHOOT A PIG

 

[Boaring Experiences Guide]

I worked at Camp Roberts for three years in the Environmental Office with the same "tree huggers" that you mentioned.

Before I state my point I need to mention that I've been a guide in the Paso Robles area for 7 years and an avid pig hunter.

So those of you that believe this is an outrage, you do realize that pigs are feral animals and are not native to California. They, in my mind, they should be managed to prevent them from impacting California's native plants and wildlife. If they are impacting a native sensitive plant species, then the their numbers should be reduced in the areas where this is occurring. Anyone who believes a feral animal should take presidence over Californias native plants and wildlife is ingnorant about the basics of ecology and biological diversity.

BTW: the girls in the game shack know me from school and I dated one of them for five years and are likely to agree with this also. So I wouldn't cry to them about this.

Dwayne

 

[sdbowyer]

Count me in as ingnorant about the basics of ecology and biological diversity in this case. Paper covers rock. Hogs cover flowers.

 

[Cda55]

Does anyone know why they picked this week to do it? I would think, this weekend should thin out a few of them. If I have it my way I'll thin out a few. Seems kinda strange with the timing, the week before a weekend hunt. What do they do with the meat? Donate it to a shelter or what?

 

[Boar Tracks CA]

B.E.G. I have no problem to save a plant , I've been here for 15 years and know the problems we have caused to or own base, (kit fox, purple gumile or something like that) All that I'm saying is if you have a pig hunt set up for this weekend,why bring in a hunter to shoot them a few days before you have your hunt.There was not a emergency dep hunt needed ,a few days before the pig hunt.I 've worked for and with DFG for many years,and know that there is a problem with overpopulation vs habitat,but still, thats what a hunter can help with,so give the public a chance to score a nice hog, and save a rare plant.
DONE

 

[Boar Tracks CA]

Hey Cda55
I talked to the base CO, and he told me that the base is going to get the meat.

And to B.E.G. I also know the DFG staff and just talked to two of them that work there and they said why are they doing this now, before the hunt.

PS: Don't get mad at DFG about this,they have NO control over what,when,and why on the Camp roberts DEP HUNTS. I just want you to tell them so they can express the publics feelings at their meetings with the Enviro. office.And maybe they can work to have more hog hunts if there is that big of a problem.

 

[Cda55]

Well said Boartracks

I'll c-ya Friday about 5:30

 

[Boar Tracks CA]

Have a cold one ready

 

[Shot]

Nice job Boar Tracks, you basicly covered what I had to say. To add a little more to it, I guess my frustration is about having "professional" people come in and take care of the pig problem, if they only give the public a chance the pig problem will soon be gone. Besides, we all know how many people will love to have a shot at a pig.

Second, its not about the ignorance. Ya some flower is being destroyed by the pigs, why not have the public take care of it? More money will go towards the DFG with the tags purchased and all the hunter fees, isn't that a good thing? Instead of having to pay someone to kill the pigs. Just my

 

[Boaring Experiences Guide]

B.T. CA,

I totally agree with you that they should of waited after this weekends hunt to do this.

But after the hunt, bring in wildlife services to remove only the animals that are causing the problem.

Dwayne

 

[Boar Tracks CA]

Thanks all
I just get fed up the way the system works here.
But I hope with a lot of hunters letting them know how they feel might have an affect for the best outcome.
And thanks again for the ear.

 

[New Pig Hunter]

Boar Tracks,

If I may and if you know, what exactly does the base CO have to say about all this ?? Are his hands tied to some political extent, or does he have the power to intervene on such a matter and say, "Not on my base at this particular time."

I'm going to assume (based on my Navy background) that the base CO can schedule hunts as he desires, in other words, he can be as discretionary as he wants to be: more hunts, less hunts, no hunts, dep hunts, etc.

Thanks,

Carl

 

[Freedivr2]

This post might come out as a little harsh, politically incorrect and to some, ignorant, but I also like to shoot straight best I can. It sounds to me like a lot of you guys have an expectation that governmental agencies actually do some thinking before they act! That's giving more credit than is due, I'll say that. The one exception to that was the Santa Cruz Island pig hunt last year, but I think that was just a screwup and they got it backwards by mistake (they had the market hunters in there AFTER the sportsman...oh well, better luck next time guys). Actually full credit to our Fish and Game for that, that truly was a job well done, wish we all could've gone on that hunt.

OF COURSE they should've waited until after this weekend's hunt to hire someone to depredate hunt! At the least, it's very inconsiderate of them if 1) they knew about the hunters coming in this weekend and 2) considered that just MAYBE they wouldn't have to spend MY tax dollars to hire a depredation hunter because the sports hunters might take care of business. Kinda sad, actually, but never underestimate the stupidity, laxness or inconsideration of our government.

How's that saying go.....no government is better than my government.........

And no, I didn't just get back from the DMV and am venting.....

I don't quite buy it about the flowers thing, either. Are they going to stop running trucks and tanks over them now? Stop throwing grenades or mortars?

Go plant the flowers or weeds where cows don't graze and tanks don't roam if anyone is worried about them. Or just let the sports hunter in there in the first place and take care of business and if he doesn't THEN go hire someone. Not the other way around..........

 

[Shot]

Didn't FHL have this same problem a couple of years back? I remember that some zones where closed for a while because of a flower and that the tanks had done a lot of damage, now is it not a stupid idea to close of a certain area? This will cause more pigs to move into the area. Well, not that it matters heres, but sometimes it just feels like we have the dumpest people making these decisons.

 

[Bishop]

Well I guess if they remove all the non-native pigs from public land we'll just have to pay to hunt the private ranches. Who wins here?

 

[Cda55]

Boartracks,

In the morning can you call the bunny hugger office and see what he's shot and where at? It might help us out this weekend?? They should have to document all of it I would think. Then again, who knows.

 

[RIFLEMAN]

I am curious...how/why is the term, "bunny hugger" applied to a hunter who is paid to take a substantial number of hogs off the base? Are B.E.G. or me "bunny huggers" because we place greater value on a native plant than a feral hog? Must we go truly go into the ecological ramifications of the feral hog for you guys to realize that they neither need nor deserve the protections you guys would like to give them so as to increase your opportunity to fill a tag every once in a while? I sympathize with your frustration, but think that casually labeling someone as a "bunny hugger" does nothing to further your argument.

Like you, I think that the depredation agent should have waited until after the public hunt. I doubt that there was any imminent need for it to be done just days prior to public opportunity.

But as for the notion that the public can be just as effective as the paid professional...NO WAY!!! There's more to getting the job done than having a scoped rifle and knowing what a hog looks like.