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I'm thrashed. What a brutal experience that was, the rain came Friday-Tuesday, and on Tuesday the temp dropped to 20 degrees.

I attended the orientation for the second period FHL cow hunt on Friday night, in a driving rain storm. Not a good sign. The briefer announced that we could no longer use shotguns w/slugs inside muzzleloader areas, claiming that they're too accurate. Well that cut out alot of hunting areas for me, since I deliberately left the muzzleloader at home. It'd have been nice to know that before I made the 6 1/2 hour drive.

I saw elk, including bulls, every day that I was there. I even made a 3 mile stalk with my bow only to have the elk disappear when I closed to 1/3 mile, not exactly bow range.

Fast forward to Tuesday. The trainings over and the base is going to open TA 15 for the first time. Its a rifle area that hadn't been hunted. I arrived before daylight and waited for enough light to see, and immediately see all the roads blocked. I call the game shack and they tell me to wait until range control gives the go ahead, somewhere around 0700. While I wait, another hunter rolls in behind me and we both wait for range conrol to open. We swap phone numbers "in case we spot a herd". Turns out the guy is a AF parajumper and his partner is a professional river rafting/outdoor guide.

At 0700 we get the go ahead and I roll down the road to see whats up, not 1/2 mile down the road, there's a herd of 90 or so cows in a little valley. I call the AF guy and give 'em a heads up. I make a move on the herd and take a shot...and miss, at one of the tail-end charlies. I had ranged it at 112 but when I walked the shot, it was closer to 300. Must have hit a bush.

I race back to the truck and formulate a plan to get in front of the herd in the next valley. I drive until I' m at the head of the valley and the elk are 1/2 mile and closing. I make the final turn and the F-150 just ice-skates into the ditch, regardless that I'm in 4-wheel. After 5 days of rain, the roads were like tapioca pudding and the driver side sunk up past the tires. I can't even open the door. I'm screwed, and the elk are closing. I call the AF guy and he agrees to give me a hand. 3 1/2 hours later I'm free and the elk are gone. Other hunters have taken 5 head from that herd. Many thanks to the AF, I learned a thing or two about vehicle recovery from that guy.

Wendsday, the rain stops and the freeze sets in. I head back out to TA 15 and the elk are nowhere to be seen, not suprising since the previous day they pretty much got brutalized. I decide to head to TA 25 and don't see a thing. Its close to camp and I swing by to throw some sandwhichs in the truck and decide to stay out till last shot.

As I pull past the gameshack I see one of the wardens and stop to get some advice. He says he saw about 30 on the way to work, in the area I just left. I'm skeptical they're still there and we get out the map. He claims that they're probably still around and haven't been pushed, since by now, there are only 3 hunters left. He also says "hurry, the biologist has just called one of the other guys and they're in route. If they shoot at 'em they're gone"

I race over there and meet with the other hunter and his partner. No elk. As hunters are apt to do, we begin to BS about what to do next. We're talking for about 5 minutes and all at once, 30 cows crest the ridge to our right. They heard us talking and came to investigate. It was a mad scramble for guns and ammo. There's a little hill between us and the elk and we deploy into a skirmish line and develop a plan enroute. He takes the right, I get the left. We shoot when we can get a single cow in our sights and no chance of a 2fer. I range it at 231yds (3 times I range-lesson learned) and its right at the edge of my personal comfort zone of 250.

A single cow steeply quarters away from the herd and I take the shot and down she goes, shot in the spine. About 20 seconds later, the other guy takes his cow. Whew. Glad thats done. The weather was almost a killer. Even so, 13 of 16 hunters filled their tags when I left, one guy was still hunting.

She was 272 lbs on the skinning rack so that puts around 350 on the hoof, an average cow. I put alittle more than 200 lbs of meat in the freezer.

Rifle: Tikka T-3 lite, 30-06
Bullet: Winchester E-tip, 150 grns
Scope: Nikon Prostaff 3x9-40mm with BDC.
Rangefinder: Bushnell ARC-1000
 

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Nice cow Dann! Haven't heard from you in a while. What draw was this, if not an ML tag?
My favorite meat, cow elk! Bon appetit LT!
 

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Nice job, you worked for that one fo' sure!
 

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Nice cow Dann! Haven't heard from you in a while. What draw was this, if not an ML tag?
My favorite meat, cow elk! Bon appetit LT!

Fort Hunter Liggett second rifle hunt, #448. Its a rifle hunt, but the base itself has designated weapons areas. Some places archery only, others bow/ML. Its hard to get under 100yds there. The elk tend to heard up in the large meadows, without cover. Long shots are a must. We had 16 hunters, 8 civilian and 8 Military. I drew on the mil side.

Its a big herd, about 500 strong, but you fight the available areas (some closed for training) with the weapons you have with. Some areas are completely off limits (impact areas) and the elk tend to stay there, of course. I talked to one guy that couldn't comprhend this. He said he drew a rifle hunt and wanted to use his rifle everywhere. Not the case at all. Some places just to close to public roads or buildings.
 

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Two years in a row man you are batting a1000! May your freezer always stay full...
 

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Two years in a row man you are batting a1000! May your freezer always stay full...

Pure friggin' luck, probably means I won't get drawn for another decade:lol bashing sign:

'course, its easier on the military side, so maybe not.

I gotta say this though....I coulda shot a bull every day that I was there. Plenty of single bulls wandering around, everything from monster 7x7's to spikes. The cows on the other hand are TOUGH. Too many eyes looking and in tight groups with no single animals.
 

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Hey; good job Dan! Glad to see you got it done. How'd it go with Chuck in the Az? Or has that happened yet?

Check out my post under elk: "elk down outside Craig Colorado". We had an interesting time, too.......
 

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OUTSTANDING Dan. Way to get it done. I was wondering how you were doing out there. That cow elk is going to taste fantastic. I'm working on my 6th load of elk jerky in the dehydrator. Enjoy and once again congrats.
 

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congrats dan! ill be tapping you for information before december 22! good looking cow!
 

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Hey; good job Dan! Glad to see you got it done. How'd it go with Chuck in the Az? Or has that happened yet?

Check out my post under elk: "elk down outside Craig Colorado". We had an interesting time, too.......

Chuck ate tag soup. He went home early for some reason....He said he passed on a spike and that was the last bull he saw in the open.
 

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congrats dan! ill be tapping you for information before december 22! good looking cow!

BRING A MUZZLE LOADER. Even if you have to borrow one. There are bulls all over the muzzleloader only areas...they won't let you use a shotgun this year!
 

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BRING A MUZZLE LOADER. Even if you have to borrow one. There are bulls all over the muzzleloader only areas...they won't let you use a shotgun this year!


Let's not tell them that a muzzleloader has a longer range than a saboted shotgun........
 

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OUTSTANDING Dan. Way to get it done. I was wondering how you were doing out there. That cow elk is going to taste fantastic. I'm working on my 6th load of elk jerky in the dehydrator. Enjoy and once again congrats.

Interestingly enough, I got her not far from where you shot your bull. It was pretty obvious that the herd had been hunted in 25. They were really skittish in that area.

Since I got her high in the spine, I didn't have much meat loss and was able to get many, many more steaks out of this one.

Interesting side comment: There was a guy there that shot a cow that weighed 330 at the rack, one of the biggest cows I've seen there. He didn't have a cooler, didn't know how to gut it, didn't have a clue what to do with the meat. He had the skinner split the carcass and throw it on a tarp in the bed of his truck. His plan was to throw a coupla bags of ice on it and drive to LA and see if he could find a someone to process it.

What a shame!
 

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Let's not tell them that a muzzleloader has a longer range than a saboted shotgun........


New base commander and he has some different ideas, thats for sure. It didn't make any sense to me at all. 'course, it wasn't in the published rule book. When I quizzed the DFG warden about it and an authorized method of take, he threw his hands up, "It wasn't us!"

Not using my shotgun and deliberately leaving my ML home probably extended my hunt by 2 days. Lesson learned.
 

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Congrats Dan on getting your Elk! Those cows are a tough hunt for sure.

That's a load of BS about the shotgun rule. That commander is basically just making rules up as he goes. He's turning it into is own little playground on what he thinks hunting should and shouldn't be. It's getting to almost not be worth going up there due to all the bullcrap that you have to go through just to hunt.
 

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If they'd have put it in the orientation letter or post it on the website, I'd have had no issue with it. I could have gotten the ML out, taken it to the range and been ready. When your 300 miles from the house, is not the time to find out.

Matter of fact, some of the civilian tag holders had no idea that there were ML and archery only areas. They showed up thinking a rifle was all they needed.

Now don't get me wrong, its a privlige to hunt there. I just wish they'd communicate what the rules are a bit more effectively. I hunted shotgun there last year without a hitch and had no warning that the rules had changed.
 

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Good job LT Dan,
My Wife and have harvested I few cow Elk @ FHL and the meat is delicious. I'm sure you and your family will be eating well this holidays.
 

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