Honoring A TRAITOR

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HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and
didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers
and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never
known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific
men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The following are true stories:
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival
School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking
cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to
describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's
feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered
from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the
Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.  
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6
-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action."
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the
cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they
still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it,
in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she
walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful
for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to
be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the
camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to
the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men
died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but
he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by
the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5
years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in
Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors
deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a
leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near
the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170
lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
>> > > > >
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political
officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I
would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different
from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane
Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a
rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel
placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I
was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did
not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years
of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never
include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's
participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It
will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will
never forget

Bill Frank, President
Carlson Wagonlit / TravelBrokers
1956 Ridge Rd
Homewood, Il. 60430
708-206-1234 x 121
708-206-6410 fax
bfrank@travel-brokers.com
 

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Bill thats an eye-opening story. I always knew she posed for pictures with the VC but I didn't know to what extent she went to to discrace our Country. Why was she never charged? That couldn't happen today in afganastan. Who is honoring her?
 

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I knew I never liked the woman now I know why.  I will send this to all my friends so we can get this out.
 

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It's really sad to see how two-faced Hanio Jane really was/is. And she is being honored for WHAT? The Benedict Arnold award? What a sad state of afairs when those like her are honored for accomplishments that cost the lives of her countryman. :mad-fumin-red:
 

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I was sent this to make me aware of what she did during the war. I believe its Time magazines list. He put his E-Mail on the letter so he can no doubt give more info since he was there. I just thought everyone should know the truth.

    Don't this just twist your gut?
 

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   I was only 12 but I still remember .I like to tell you all what my Dad said but Jessie would have to ban me.
 

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She should have been shot as a traidor. She cost the death of alot of good men.
 

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Guys,

The story is true, but it's an old one.  The "honor" of being among "100 women of the century" dates back to 1999 when she was included in the list by ABC's 30 April 1999 "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women".  She's offered some feeble apologies over the years nothing that I think comes close to expressing the true remorse that she should feel.  

Regards,
Paul
 

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Thanks for filling us in Hogskin, I just recieved the E-Mail and didn't know it was 1999 vintage. I was in the Air Force when she made her infamous visit to vietnam and never felt the same about her afterward. Thanx again for info.

   woods
 

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Was bored and found this old post --- Solomon was right, there is no new thing under the sun.
 
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You brought back memories of my youuth CS-

Anyone remember her workout video? She did this thing when I was around 14 and VHS's just came into the market.-- another topic- I believeit was called "The Spider Squats" I still remember those spandex and horizontal striped suit.






Dayum you CS-
 

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Hey Sierra, I remember Jane. She was fine to look at, but seeing how I was 18 years old when she visited the anti-aircraft guns --- I just hated her and still do. I knew any day my favorite "uncle" was going to send me a letter of "greetings"; and I was going where Jane had been. I didn't figure her trip would make mine any easier.

I got married right after I turned 18(and no she wasn't knocked-up). I like to think we got married so young because we were so much in love and just couldn't wait; but really a lot of the reason was that we figured I would soon be drafted and we might never get the chance if we waited. At the time Jane was over there conforting with the enemy, my wife would not get the mail out of our mailbox for fear of the "notice".

Hanoi Jane is one woman I just can't stand; and I was so repulsed by her I would not watch those exercise videos of her. However, one of my liberal professors and a CSU liked to show "anti-war" videos; I guess this was in 1974 or so --- they usually had Jane and a bunch of French folks, all buck naked running around in the jungle with toy machine guns shooting one another. Never was smart enough to figure out how they were supposed to make a person "anti-war".
 

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As much as I hate to admit it, AgentP is right. Snopes is a great site for debunking this kind of stuff. She's still low on the list of people I'd like to meet though.
 

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I will deal with what I know to be true. On the days that Hanoi Jane was in North Viet Nam, I was in South Viet Nam. While she was puckering up to kiss the butts of the enemy, my friends were catching hell and dieing.
She declared herself an enemy to our country and a traitor with her own words, she is a traitor to this country and to every man and woman that has ever worn the uniform in the US military.
She should be tried for her crimes against this country. I would be proud to be part of the detainment detail that stands guard over her cell.
 

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No arguments here DH. Thanks for answering the call. Thank you for your service.
 

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ETC2NA,
You are doing your part too, and I'm very glad for all of you youngsters!!!!!
I learned to fly while I was in highschool. I would give almost anything to sit in your seat for an hour or two.
There are a lot of us on here that are proud of all of you. Keep up the good work.
Paul
 

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