Hunting Africa

[fortyfive70]

Was just wondering if all of African hunting was done behind fence- game ranch style, or is there still wide open spaces where hunts are conducted on an old time safari style hunt?

 

[jjhack]

What ever you want and can afford is available

Don't think for a minute that the fence makes the area a game farm. Nothing could be further from the truth. Hunting game on 50-75 or as much as 100 square miles of land or more that is game fenced is not a game farm but a management area to prevent poaching, and control either dangerous or rare species from leaving the protection of the management area.

All of Kruger park is fenced and that is a bigger area then many of the islands of SE Alaska which are also fenced by saltwater! No body I know regards hunting brown bears there as hunting a captive species!

Sure there are a bunch of hidious properties with stocked game and animals that don't live natural within the fenced boundries. Just ask around and you will find the good spots pretty easy. Go to my website and look at the game we have taken. It's all indiginous and wild, nothing stocked for hunting and no "put and take" pure wild and free roaming animals. Living on property that is 10-100 times their natural home range. The fence is irrelevent!

 

[fortyfive70]

So I guess the answer to my question is no? The days of an old african safari is over with...was just wondering.....no offense was meant by game farms/ranches..or high fences...you sound'd a lil touchy in your reply to my question.........i have been to your websight many times.......and a host of others too...
they all look impressive.....Most don't show substandard animals on their websites, or the high feneces that you hunt behind......was the reason for my question...I know that the area can be huge.....i just couldn't imagine some one putting a game fence around 100 sq. mile parcel of land....the cost seems astonishing..

 

[jjhack]

No, your missing the text in my post. I said you can have whatever you like. If you want to spend the money you can have hunts in plenty of places where there is no fence within a 1000 miles or more. Tanzania, and Botswana offer hunting on consessions that are completely unfenced and wide open. Much of Zimbabwe is also unfenced.

The cost for this kind of hunt in Tazania or Botswana will be be well in excess of what the average or even well off man can afford. As an example the daily fee in Tanzania will be over 1000.00 per day with a minimum amount of days to hunt. So you would have about 21,000 dollars into this for daily fees before you pull the trigger the first time.

Add to that the airfare to Africa, and the charterd flight from Dar Es Salam and the numbers climb really fast. Add in a few head of game and a 50,000 dollar trip is very typical. Botswana may be the most expensive location today! Zimbabwe is probably the cheapest of all the free range areas you can hunt but I would not personally enter the country with the turmoil they have and the president who is a very dangerous ruler. Namiba does not have the amount of species, but has a lot of farm land open to hunting. It's about like hunting agriculture in the USA. Lots of game but not always the "African Bush" people envision. Much of it is with livestock and on agricultural farm land.

The areas in CAR are as wild and dangerous today as they were when TR hunted in Africa. It's a place I would not likely ever go, but it's so wild and remote that most folks think there are still plenty of new species to be found in the area.

How much you wanna spend determines what you can do, much like anything else in life!

 

[RandyWakeman]

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Was just wondering if all of African hunting was done behind fence- game ranch style, or is there still wide open spaces where hunts are conducted on an old time safari style hunt?[/b]

All?

Very, very little-- from what I saw. I've been to S. Africa exactly once, just recently. Walk far enough in areas populated by humans . . . sure, you will eventually see a power line or a road.

A self-sustaining 20,000 acre area of private land is a far as can possibly be imagined from "behind a fence," as if what fences that do exist could possibly be considered a barrier of any sort to a kudu in heavy bushvelt.

There are far less "wide open spaces" in North America.

 

[mbcijim]

If you're considering going, don't let the fences bother you. Hunting for us in 9,000 fenced acres was anything but easy. I've done the Pennsylvania $400 hog hunt in a 100 acre pen that is most definitly a "canned" hunt. My SA trip was the exact opposite.