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Theres no such thing as an affordable place to stay. Except hostels and camping at the beach. Hotels are all at least 100bucks a night pretty much.

The Na Pali always has a ton of hikers. You either have to go in 2 miles and go up hanakapiai valley and get off the trail. or go past the beach and you'll see game all over the trail, especially past the 4 mile pont. Hikers have never been an issue on the trail. The first two miles are where the most hikers frequent, Ive only seen one pig in this stretch in my whole life and have probably hiked it 30-40 times in my life.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Aug 21 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Theres no such thing as an affordable place to stay. Except hostels and camping at the beach. Hotels are all at least 100bucks a night pretty much.

The Na Pali always has a ton of hikers. You either have to go in 2 miles and go up hanakapiai valley and get off the trail. or go past the beach and you'll see game all over the trail, especially past the 4 mile pont. Hikers have never been an issue on the trail. The first two miles are where the most hikers frequent, Ive only seen one pig in this stretch in my whole life and have probably hiked it 30-40 times in my life.[/b]
Maybe we can hookup during the second week of January, that's if it's not too muddy to hunt? Kauai Sands in Kapaa (Wailua) is only $93, and it’s not too bad for that price. The airline that I’m retired from owns nearby Kapaa Sands, or maybe they lease it from the Japanese? Those little Japanese duplex condos are quite a bit nicer. But of course, a studio is $120. There is great fly fishing right in front of Kapaa Sands, and the reef fish can be cooked on the patio for dinner.

I originally stayed at Kapaa Sand during 1974 when the interiors were all hand rubbed wood with bamboo wallpaper. In those days it was owned and operated by a Japanese company. (only $17 per night for the best condo) Don’t know why the new airline owner had to paint the interiors white? If someone doesn’t suggest something better, I will probably spend the extra $27 per night for the Japanese Condo. Here is the link:

http://www.kapaasands.com/



Richard
 

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We stayed up in Princeville at the Bali Hai Villas. Now, P-ville is 20% higher than Kapa'a to begin with; however, we managed to save a few bucks here and there. Mostly by getting a shopper card at the Foodland, buying half in Kapaa, and checking for food on sale. Also, having a condo with a kitchen cuts down on unnecessary eating out.

The Sunday night we landed on the island, we were late getting a rental car - because the people before us had not yet returned it. ( When they did come, Hertz didn't clean it, and we later found pb&j on the back seat.) Anyway, by the time we got out of there, it was nearly 9pm. No decent food joints were open, with the exception of the L&L Chinese drive thru in Kapaa. We cleaned out their buffet. The girl behind the register wanted us to take the food to go, but it had started to shower. Besides, she said they were open to 10. We thought for sure they would put our picture on the wall under the sign: "do not serve."

If you want a quick bite on the Waimea side, there's a sandwich-ice cream shop just before you go up into the canyon on 552, in the small town of Kakaha.

Didn't see any roadside stands with pork or jerk chicken.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Live2hunt @ Aug 21 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Is there a season for those wild chicken?[/b]

Hahaha! There's no season and I think they are only protected in Koke'e state park where people used to feed them and got offended when people harassed the beloved chickens of the area. I could be wrong though. They are not a game animal and 95% of people on the island consider them pests and love for you to whack a few. Eating-wise, I hear them to be tough. They carry heartworms and perhaps other worms, therefore, they are not nearly as plump as those in the store, and they are also said to be quite tough. I was cutting one open to eat them once and got grossed out by what I hought was heart worms. ‘Sort of traumatized me. A large rooster has about as much breast meat as... I'm trying to think of something to compare it to. ...probably about as much as a ring neck pheasant. The local trick to cooking it is to use the enzymes of the papaya plant. Skin and cube a green papaya (yes, that is not a typo) and marinate your meat with it and even cook it with it. The green papaya when cooked comes out similar to squash and it tenderizes any meat.

Family Tradition? How you doing over there? I'm still on Kauai. In case you all haven't seen this link… along with receiving a letter of exemption and a license, this is the next most important link:
Rules Regulating Game Mammal Hunting

Pay attention to which hunting areas are open for that time of year. Looks like you are restricted to:
Unit-A Pigs: orange sgirt required. rifle, archery, muzzleloader. Permit required. (W. Hills. Dry)
Unit-B Pigs: Orange shirt required. rifle, archery, muzzleloader (canyon)
Unit-C Pigs: Orange shirt required. Rifle, archery muzzleloader (windward Kauai)
Unit-D Pigs: archery only (near koke'e state park)
Unit-E Pigs: Orange shirt required. Rifle, archery muzzleloader (alakai swamp)
Unit-F Pigs: archery only (canyon rim) RECOMMENDED
Unit-G Pigs and Goats: archery only 365 day/year, no bag limits (Na'pali coast) RECOMMENDED
Unit-H Pigs: Orange shirt required. rifle, archery, muzzleloader (Hills to W. of Koke'e)
Unit-J Pigs: Archery only (west of Canyon Highway)

Actually, your coming at the perfect time of year. It seams everywhere except Unit-K is open! I recommend Unit F and G for archery. Both are very rugged terrain. Unit G receives less pressure and is a long hike. Unit F is right next to the road and you drop into the canyon after pigs. Unit G is the only place open to goats, however, you need to be in excellent shape. Unit G is where I go. The place is great and if you are interested in it, I can give you tips on how to hunt the place.

You still keeping up with this?
 

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Ev and Nic, Family Tradition probably won't get back to you until early next week. He is chasing a fatty mule deer with his bow in the high country.
 

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Hahaha! There's no season and I think they are only protected in Koke'e state park where people used to feed them and got offended when people harassed the beloved chickens of the area. I could be wrong though. They are not a game animal and 95% of people on the island consider them pests and love for you to whack a few. Eating-wise, I hear them to be tough. They carry heartworms and perhaps other worms, therefore, they are not nearly as plump as those in the store, and they are also said to be quite tough. I was cutting one open to eat them once and got grossed out by what I hought was heart worms. ‘Sort of traumatized me. A large rooster has about as much breast meat as... I'm trying to think of something to compare it to. ...probably about as much as a ring neck pheasant. The local trick to cooking it is to use the enzymes of the papaya plant. Skin and cube a green papaya (yes, that is not a typo) and marinate your meat with it and even cook it with it. The green papaya when cooked comes out similar to squash and it tenderizes any meat.[/b]


So you're saying if I was there hunting pigs, I can shoot wild chicken if I want to?



L2H
 

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It really sucks when youre stalking through the forest and you hear something shuffling in the leaves, and you drop to your knees and slowly sneak up behind a big guava tree. Slowly peaking your head around you're let down to find a mangy little hen searching for bugs. I hate the damn things. They make a big ruckus when they hear you too. I'd imagine the pigs are smart enough to understand they can use the chickens like alarm systems.

Don't shoot chickens where anyone can see you. I got arrested when I was 16 for a 'pellet gun violation'. Popped a hen and some old lady saw me. I guess my Benjamin Sheridan looked like a sawed off shotgun so the cops came flying down to bust the 'two kids shooting chickens with a shotgun'. We were in a small wooded lot next to where we surf. They came down guns unholstered and stuff, scared the crap outta me.
 

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Evan, I asked Katie Cassel about the chickens being protected in Koke'e and the answer I got was that they are no different from any other resource in Koke'e State park. If you want to gather, you need a permit. Otherwise, anywhere else in the state, chickens are not game animals and no rules govern hunting them. I got a Benjamin in the mail and it's great! I can hit the head or neck of a chicken at 20 yards almost every time. This is just to protect the garden; I'm scared to eat them.

I'll second what Evan said. Chickens always mess up your hunting and alert the pigs. Imagine, the superior eyesight of a chicken and the nose of a pig. They make a good pair alerting one another of dangers. Our hunting dogs always flush up squalking chickens. I heard a rooster not far from the summit. Seems like in the last 10 years, they really expanded their range into the island's interior.
 
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