Live2Hunt just because you haven't seen them does't mean thier not there or not there in good numbers. you don't see cats very often.They're sneeky.....I've been calling and happen to spot one(bobcats) just sitting a few few away....just watching me....when I thought a field mouse couldn't have slipped by me.This morning in the mud by my fourwheeler(15 feet from my door)was some bobcat tracks.The kitty took a dump on my door step a year ago.Point is that I have never seen a bobcat on our place(outside of a trap) ever......but they're here in good numbers.I find sign all over the place and catch them in steel traps.Never seen a mountain lion on this place either but I have found tracks and heard it scream one night.It's like hogs people will tell you that they don't have hogs on their place......after a little scouting ....you just found a area rich in hogs.Hogs and cats move the most at night so you don't really get many chances to see them in the day.Well the hogs on my place move at night because of hunting pressure.Anyway.......sounds like you guys hunt this area alot.....and are familar with it. I've never hunted public land.....I don't envy you guys.It's got to be hard.I did hunt on Fort Bliss in El Paso for a few years.You could drive for hours and not see anyone.....or anything but coyotes and rabbits.