Must read for SoCal. hog hunters. San Diego hog eradrication

[Wild1]

Not happy about this..!!!


http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-pigs-gone-20160421-story.html

 

[chap_dog48]

Just read that article and was going to post it here. That does suck. Wish they would have pushed hunters to get out there and not use tax payers funds to hire professionals, but wish I was one of those that got paid to hunt them. Sucks for those San Diego guys that had a little gold mine in pig hunting. Wonder if they will push for the same thing with the turkeys in that area. I read an article that stated that turkeys are eating endangered frogs and plants and in cases leading to an some Oak Disease in the northern parts of the state and they are considering taking the turkeys out of Cali. That would suck.

 

[vogel002]

I would be shocked and impressed if they had the number down to 8, some of those canyons and hills are so thick men just aren't made to get through them.

 

[mezcan]

Must read for SoCal. hog hunters

They don't know how many are out there. They pushed the federal eradication program based on possibly thousands of pigs in the hills and they've only taken several hundred? They don't know s**t from shinola ! By the way how many millions of dollars did it cost to take out 150 pigs?


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[OPAH]

The Pig eradication program was very effective, wild pigs are almost non existent in San Diego any more.
the few that are left are in the most densely vegetated canyons far from access points, yes it does suck that it wasn't brought before the Hunting population first. But that is the route all are taking, Catalina and all others have taking on eradication programs, using hired shooters from helicopters, kill them and let them lie. Bet it wasn't non-lead ammo they used!!

 

[CaliforniaKid]

Ha. Glad they narrowed it down to eight (a bit of sarcasm there). You aren't going to pattern them enough to figure out there are eight left. That's a joke in itself.

 

[mezcan]

Must read for SoCal. hog hunters

Nonlead not required in the national forest yet, yet! Talking about Cleveland national of course.


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[Portuguese Pointer]

Yeah that sucks. That explains why I did not see tracks at one of my three spots last month. But the hired guns have not found my other spot...yet.

 

[Deleted member 33033]

I argued that the Government had no legal authority to eradicate a GAME SPECIES but the DFG allowed it anyway. Only California considers hogs a game species and this fiasco was a completely illegal clusterpuck! When hunting em down there we found some empty traps. The only viable hog hunting left in the south is reserved for those who can hunt the Indian Reservations or go to Big Horn Canyon Ranch. They actually have some monster sized razorbacks there back in the thick stuff but they are crazy smart. They hide in that mustard and won't move unless you kick em up or make eye contact...then they practically fly. Forget the domestic pigs there...the old hogs on the hard to access portion of the place are a hard hunt.

 

[ltdann]

I note that they only killed 150 hogs. What happened to the massive environmental damage they were expecting? The estimates I read about talked about upward of 1000 pigs!

So they spent $2.5 million of taxpayer money to kill 150 pigs and call it a success? So that's $16,666 per pig. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

 

[KTKT70]

So that's $16,666 per pig. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

wow that a lot of money on a rat. Cali is crazy on that one. Tax payers need a refund on that bs.

 

[Deleted member 33033]

I note that they only killed 150 hogs. What happened to the massive environmental damage they were expecting? The estimates I read about talked about upward of 1000 pigs!

So they spent $2.5 million of taxpayer money to kill 150 pigs and call it a success? So that's $16,666 per pig. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

The word you're searching for is LIBARDS.

 

[Bubblehide]

They don't know how many are out there. They pushed the federal eradication program based on possibly thousands of pigs in the hills and they've only taken several hundred? They don't know s**t from shinola ! ...

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I would say that they didn't care how many there were, exaggerating the number only helped fulfill their agenda, establish a precedent, and make it easy to continue the practice. The fact is that they are an invasive species. We hunters I would venture to say, have footed the vast majority of the cost of this project, through the Pittman-Robertson Act. The fact is that we hunters are paying the tab for wildlife management, whether the species is a game animal or not. I had no problem with that when wildlife managements view was to manage for more hunting opportunities. But as we are well aware of, in this state, that is a thing of the past, and our wildlife is now being managed from a preservationist perspective which is not at all friendly to hunting.

Hunting has been proven to be one of the best, and most cost effective methods of population control of species that are not looking to be eradicated. But eradicating a species considered a game animal, from an area with tax monies and fees collected from hunters is simply taxation without representation. Plain and simple it was wrong, unjust. The current management practices or our wildlife is inequitable, and clearly unjust. And, the practices in this case, were clearly a deception on us hunters, and on society in general.

We hunters pay fees and taxes to have our wildlife managed in a manner that maintains healthy sustainable populations while providing, maintaining, and attempting to build hunting opportunities. The anti hunting agenda is getting a free ride in wildlife management on the backs of our (hunters) coattails. And since they are now the majority within our (Ca) wildlife management, they are riding roughshod all over our values and principals. I as a hunter, despite not wanting to lose a thing, could live with some reductions in hunting opportunity. The fact is that we have already experienced many. But what I can not live with, is the mismanagement of our wildlife. We have already seen plenty of mismanagement, and to name only a few, look at the cougar debacle, the inability to use dogs for some species, this pig eradication, and the one that is bound to have the greatest impact on hunting opportunities, and perhaps devastate our elk and deer herds, the Ca listing of wolves as endangered. The latter makes it impossible to manage the wolf species in Ca, without going through a lengthy time consuming process; one that our wildlife can not afford to be subjected to. It's a train-wreak on a track to disaster, and most of us here will be around to witness it, and subsequently be the victims of it.

 

[mezcan]

Can't wait till the nut jobs try to re-introduce the grizzly. I hope they start that project in downtown Sacramento.


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[ltdann]

Can't wait till the nut jobs try to re-introduce the grizzly. I hope they start that project in downtown Sacramento.


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Yep, it was just a matter of time before somebody realizes that the bear on the state flag is a grizzly. From wiki:

"In 2014, the US Fish and Wildlife Service received and rejected a petition to reintroduce the California grizzly.[SUP][14][/SUP] In 2015 the Center for Biological Diversity launched another petition, this time aimed at the California state legislature, to reintroduce the grizzly bear into California"

 

[sportyg]

I expect in the next 15 to 20 years there will be no hunting in CA. If the lions and wolves don't kill off most of the game animals then by that time they will have outlawed all our guns and maybe our bows as well..

 

[KTKT70]

There are no strangers in the hunting community, only friends that we’ve yet to meet.

Let's hope we get to hunt in Cali for many many more years.

 

[wedgy]

If pigs are invasive and a nuisance w do we have to buy a tag ? They are listed as a game species right ?
FYI the little town of Lebec next to Tejon was named after this French trapper who was.....you guessed it, killed by a grizzly bear in 1837.

Lebec is named in honor of Peter Lebeck or Lebecque, a French trapper killed by a grizzly bear here in 1837. He was memorialized in an epitaph at Fort Tejon, found carved in a bare spot on an old oak tree.[SUP][2][/SUP] The epitath read PETER LEBECK / KILLED BY A X BEAR / OCTR 17 / 1837. The bark of the oak tree eventually grew over the carving. A group called the Foxtail Rangers from Bakersfield removed the bark in the late 1800s and found the inscription in reverse on its underside. The piece is now displayed in the museum at Fort Tejon State Historic Park.[SUP][4][/SUP]
Lieutenant R.S. Williamson camped at the same oak grove in 1853 while on a mid-1850s mapping mission for a practicable railway route from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean. Geologist William P. Blake accompanied Williamson's party. The area was garrisoned by the United States Army a year later, on Aug. 10, 1854, as Fort Tejon, the first military fort in the interior of California. The fort suffered extensive damage during the 1857 Fort Tejon earthquake.[SUP][5][/SUP]
The first post office opened in 1895, having been transferred from Tejon.[SUP][2][/SUP]
The Lebec Hotel was a large Spanish Colonial Revival style hotel on the Ridge Route in the community. It was built in 1921, and was popular with Hollywood executives and movie stars before WW II. It closed in 1968, and was demolished in 1972.[SUP][6][/SUP]

 

[Wild1]

The entire thing sucks, but I'd like to encourage any SoCal. hog hunters to not give up (if you don't have a problem hunting hard). There's a lot written, but I'm wondering exactly how many hunters have actually scouted and put in some real time and effort in SD county (?). I know a few of you have, and you still see sign(s), and I know I have, and every time I do, I run across fresh sign - I may not always see a hog, or get one on a trail camera, but I believe they're still out there. They're NOT non-existent, I've killed more than a few in SD (on public land with a bow), and when I get the time again (hopefully next month) I'm going back with a vengeance!! Good luck fellas.

 

[OPAH]

It Is Sad, Catalina did the same, but Wild1 Is correct If you are willing to pack In cut some discrete paths there are pigs still in those canyons, Not tons but enough to be lightly hunted.
Get ready for the same here in the Santa Anna River, I have been trying to get permission to archery hunt the far back of the park and golf course for years now and can not get a response. we'll read one morning where they are doing the same thing, Hiring some one to go in with helicopters and slaughter them, I only good thing is Pigs seem to disappear fast when under pressure like that, They will get some early on but not all of them.