Well camers, I did it. I made my first cam. It took me all day cause I was nervous. I used the RS PIR, a RS hobby box and an old OWL AF with the slide switch. Had to buy my wife a new camera for the old one. So I bought her a Canon OWL PF / Date, who knows, see might lose it. Ha - Ha !!! I am using 9Vdc and all home tests are going well. I tested the camera for the shut down mode and it stayed hot after 2 hours, good thing. Now I'm ready for a timer. I will be contacting you guys real soon for that. Thanks so much for all the help and confidence. Ya'll are the best. Anybody live near Clayton, NC? I like to see your cams.