Plan to eradicate pigs in San Diego County

[Grey Taylor]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/01/forest-service-and-blm-plan-exterminate-countys-wi/

Guy

 

[527varmint]

that is lame no pig hunting for us. they should feed the homeless with the meat what a waste.

 

[ltdann]

E-mail sent. I say leave 'em alone.

 

[ltdann]

that is lame no pig hunting for us. they should feed the homeless with the meat what a waste.

The article has an e-mail to express your views. Tell 'em to leave the pigs alone. Don't let the eco-nazis be the only ones giving input.

 

[sdnative13]

can someone post the email link here so I/We can express our concerns

 

[Grey Taylor]

"You can send your comments to the U.S. Forest Service by mailing them before June 26 to Pete Gamben, environmental coordinator, Cleveland National Forest, 10845 Rancho Bernardo Road, Suite 200, San Diego, CA 92127.
Comments may be made via telephone at (858) 674-2901 or fax at (858) 673-6192. Hand delivery of comments may be made between 8 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. on business days at the address listed above.
Comments may also be emailed in a Word (.doc) rich text format (.rtf), portable document format (.pdf) or text (.txt) format to pgamben@fs.fed.us."

Guy

 

[Vermonster]

I just got off the phone with the San Diego office and the Palomar district office, and both said basically the same thing. We don't have any updated info on the locations of pigs, and if we did, we would share it with you.

They still just point to the map they have that outlines the entire San Diego East County.......

I think they are way behind the curve. If they are hard enough for hunters to find, what are the odds that traps will get them? Where will they place them? Private land.......No authority to do so. But, public land, it's hard enough to find them there already.....

 

[k-thug]

Weak sauce

 

[asaxon]

Thanks for the heads up on sending comments ltdann and to those who sent the intel where to send. I have added my views about leaving them be for the present time, they really need to get a better handle on the number, the diet they are eating etc and not have a knee jerk response of "kill the pigs".

I read the newpaper article and was particularly amused by the quote attributed to Don White: "It’s not like packing a deer out," said veteran public lands hunter Don White. "Pig meat is denser and heavier." So 120 lbs of pig meat is harder to carry than 120 lbs of venison? really? It is magically heavier even though it weighs the same? Come on now.... The muscle is may be a bit denser but I'll bet the relative density to water between the two is insignificant and even if were much denser/heavier, than the pig meat would simply be more compact for the same 120 libs. You got to love the new media - one of our more humorous forms of advertizing. I should add that I don't mean this as a knock on Don White who I don't know and is probably 100 times more knowledgable about ferrel hogs than I am - this is what the papers reprot he said as a sound bite.

 

[Caninelaw]

Problem is SD County is there are so many refuges (non-hunting type), reservations and park lands that you can't hunt the pigs have all kinds of places to get away from hunters. Open up all that to hunting and see if hunters don't get a few.

 

[ChefTodd]

Such a bummer, they really need to just locate them and give us the info....not waste taxpayers money on helicopters and large traps...heck I am sure any of us would go in and do it for free. Although, Im sure if they want to pay me, that would just be an added bonus

 

[ltdann]

pgomben@fs.fed.us


Write the guy above, let him know how you feel. He's the program manager. Don't let them waste our taxes on this idiotic effort. It's too late, they'll never get all the pigs.

 

[ChefTodd]

Im sending out a letter in the mail today..........

 

[BADBuckfever]

I too thought that was a strange statement about the pigs weighing more due to dense meat. WTH??? An email is in the works!!!

 

[ChefTodd]

I think I am going to go again on Saturday and look for those piggies....if there really are that many out there, there should be some sign of them....

 

[BADBuckfever]

The way they made it sound you have to hoof it into some steep and hairy canyons far from any roads, so why is this even an issue if these pigs cant even be effectively found frequently? Stupid FEDS!!!

 

[ltdann]

The way they made it sound you have to hoof it into some steep and hairy canyons far from any roads, so why is this even an issue if these pigs cant even be effectively found frequently? Stupid FEDS!!!

That's pretty much the way it is. The terrain's pretty brutal and that's why the hogs are there, that, and its where the water is. I''ve only heard of maybe a dozen hogs being taken since 2006.

There isn't that many, they're hard to find and hard to kill.

 

[Marty]

It's not the terrain that matters to the folks in charge of these projects. Remember Santa Cruz Island ??
The hunting public was two steps away from hog heaven on the island when it was determined that it would be more "humane" to bring in a depredation contractor, nets, and a helicopter to clear off the hogs. Even the eco- and anti-hunting groups backed off once they saw that there would be no public involvement. What it actually did was reduce public use of the land. Watch for the same to happen in San Diego County.

 

[WildlifeBranch]

Marty- As I remember it having gone out on SC Island in a pre-hunt recon/meeting, we did have a public hunt before the eradication effort began. One's I saw were mostly bags-of-bones. We held a public hunt, but then they needed to get busy at eradication which is an entirely different perspective than continuing controlled hunts. Eric

 

[ltdann]

Dr loft,

Is this control program necessary? Most of the hunters are pretty excited about having an additional big game opportunity in SD. It seems a huge waste of taxpayer money.

Dan