Beretta LTLX7000 makes a non-lethal shotty for crowd control. I saw it on the Future weapons show it was one of the guns they tested. Leaving the barrel @ 231 MPH would probably put a hurtin on a bear .:skeered: YouTube - Future Weapons: Beretta LTLX7000
I think the rubber bullets, pepper spray, etc are great deterrents for a curious bear (black or grizzly). Should be real effective on the camp-robbing blackies especially. I still believe they're absolutely useless in a full-blown charge scenario when a bear is hell-bent on attacking.
These aversion techniques (rubber slugs, beanbags, etc) are meant to avert the naive bear from a certain behavior. They are used as training aids to teach bears how society wants them to behave (stay away from kids, out of trash cans, etc). These methods are not meant to deter or ward off an attack. Furthermore, once a bear becomes conditioned to a certain food source (e.g. trashy campsites), they usually cannot be trained to avoid them.
Its purpose is to train a bear that is around camps, schools, homes, what Mark said, not in the wilderness on a spring hike when you get into a little trouble. It wont make an angry sow turn and go another way, esp. if you walk in on a little teaching lesson with a little one or two around.
Just remember, you dont have to out run the bear, you just have to out run the other person!:lol bashing sign: