SoCal Pig

[3056_HUNTER]

This is my first pig.....at the property (yes private property) at 0600. drank coffee and watched the sun come up. hit the trail at about 0630. at about 0715 hours heard a loud snort and saw severl pigs on a dirt rise about 60 yards away. It was a uphill shot and the head was only visible. I forgot to aim high and hit the dirt below them. My friend also missed and hit the bank. we listened to them bust through the brush and heard a sudden stop. these pigs like the bed down after about 20yards of running. My friend went after them in the heavy brush and I went throught the wash on the opposite side. I could hear him chaseing the pigs around inside and was sure he was going to get one. all of a sudden I came around a corner and saw a calico come out about 60 yards in front of me. I was sill in cover and the wind was in my face. the pig stopped just long enough for me to put a bead on it and blast it with two kill shots. I was using my remington 20g with a slug and regular bead sights. didnt hear anything initially and didnt think i hit it cause i have bad luck. I thought to myself "well missed another!" and walked sadly to the area where i shot at the pig. To my surpise it looked like something got slaughtered. the pig ran about 10yard and bled out in less than 10 min. field dressed it, loaded it up and skinned it at home on the meat tree. Its at the butcher right now........four pigs in the freezer :smiley-mouse:

 

[k_rad]

Hell yes! nice work! Is that a Browning auto 5? love those guns...

 

[ltdann]

Outstanding hog! And with a 20 ga as well! I think you probably missed the first time more from hog fever than forgetting to aim high, especially at 60 yds. For reasons that are a bit fuzzy to me, your supposed to aim low on uphill AND down hill shots.

But hey, what ever works, nice calico!

 

[gatorfan]

Very nice! Congrats

 

[hntboar]

I Like it. Nice first hog!

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

Great first hog!!! Without giving to much away, what county were you in?

 

[3056_HUNTER]

Great first hog!!! Without giving to much away, what county were you in?

San Diego.....on some orchard property my bro has permission to hunt....4free:thumbs up2:

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

Sweet! You guys have a nice little spot..Congrat's! Seems like them SD Hogs are makin a name for themselves lately...

 

[Vermonster]

Excellent!!! Just searched for your other posts and found the triple you got earlier. Outstanding!!!

A big congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smiley_green_with_e

 

[k_rad]

For reasons that are a bit fuzzy to me, your supposed to aim low on uphill AND down hill shots.

OK, I really don't mean to Jack your post 3056 Hunter, but someone has to know for sure why what Lt. Dann said is true. I have heard different points on the uphill/ down hill deal and somebody's got to have a basic physics reason that makes sense. Anybody please???

 

[k_rad]

It was a uphill shot and the head was only visible. I forgot to aim high and hit the dirt below them. My friend also missed and hit the bank. :smiley-mouse:

See and he says he should have aimed higher on and uphill shot... I have heard aim low on a downhill shot and high on an uphill shot because of gravity... Makes no sense to me...Anybody

 

[Fugaloo]

It's really all about linear distance. When looking up or down a hill, you have to shoot for the actual straight across distance. Think of it this way. If you were looking up a cliff the rose 300 yards, but only ran 25 yards in front of you, there is only 25 yards linear yards for the bullet to drop. But if you shot up a 25 yard cliff, that ran out 300 yards away, the bullet is dropping for 300 yards. Bullets don't suffer gravity going up, only across. Take the logic out futher, if you shot staight up into the air, at a target directly above you, there would be zero drop, yes gravity is affecting it, but not enough to change trajectory. so when you are ranging a shot uphill, or downhill, you have to figure out the true linear distance over the horizontal plane, not the combined distance of the vertical and horizontal. Even though that hog is up the hill some ways, you have to shoot for the distance he would be if the hill didn't exist. I know some guys can explain this better, and I probably didn't use all the right terminology, but hopefully this helps.

Here is a link that explains it better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RiflemansRule.svg

 

[catchdog]

nice job i like the old 20 ga. as far as up hill down hill i have been told aim low for both but i have not done enough hill shooting to really know not alot of big hills here in corn county OH. but i sure need to learn

 

[3056_HUNTER]

Hell yes! nice work! Is that a Browning auto 5? love those guns...

This gun is a Remington Sportsman(?) semi auto.....recoiling barrel....very straight shooting and has a lot of blood on it. so far its dropped 3 pigs ( 2 sows and 1 very large boar) and countless birds for 3 generations. we have a browning auto 5 12gauge also and that gun is pretty sweet. I dont like to use it alot because i get guns dirty and would hate to scratch it. plus i thing the recoiling barrel keeps the shots straighter.

This is what i found on aiming uphill and downhill. i know its archery but there is some kind of paralax error with rifles too.

<TABLE width=750 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">Uphill-Downhill Shooting By Perry Ratcliff © 1999
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</TD></TR><TR><TD width="100%">One of the most debated topics in archery is how to properly adjust for uphill/downhill shots. The most common rule given is that you set your sight for the horizontal component of the range. For example, if you were shooting a 60 yard uphill/downhill shot at a 20<SUP> </SUP><NOBR>degree</NOBR> angle, you would set your sight for 56.4 [COS(20°) * 60 ~ 56.4] yards regardless of whether the target is at an uphill or downhill angle. Figuring out Angles and Cosines on the range is tough enough, but even so this method does not work under many conditions. To understand how to adjust for uphill/downhill shots you need to understand what you are adjusting for when setting your sight. We all know that as the range increases, you must lower your front sight to compensate for the Arrow Drop. However, you are not adjusting simply for Arrow Drop. You are also adjusting for Parallax Error. </TD></TR><TR><TD width="100%">Parallax Error When you aim your bow, your aiming eye is typically not behind the nock of your arrow (See Figure 1). Your aiming eye (or peep) is usually several inches above the shaft of the arrow, which introduces a sight offset referred to as Parallax Error. This Parallax Error varies depending on the range to target. In both Figures 1 & 2 the arrow is pointed directly at the target. In these figures, the sight is also adjusted to point directly at the target. Notice how the sight is relatively high on the sight for long ranges and very low on the sight for short targets. This sight movement, or Parallax Error, is opposite of how you adjust your sight for Arrow Drop. At ranges beyond 20 yards, Parallax Error changes very slowly with range and is hardly noticeable. However, at ranges below 15 yards Parallax Error changes very rapidly. You can see this effect when you have to move your sight backwards, or down the sight, as you get closer to the target (for ranges under 15 yards). In fact, to shoot a 2 yard target, it is not uncommon to have to set your sight for somewhere between 60 and 70 yards. This odd movement of the sight is due entirely to Parallax Error. The amount of Parallax Error for any given range is determined by how high your peep sight (or aiming eye) is relative to the arrow shaft and the distance between your peep sight and aperture of your front sight. Bow speed has nothing to do with Parallax Error or the strange things that happen at very short ranges. You would observe these same changes in sight settings with a high speed rifle if the rear sight was placed 4 or 5 inches above the barrel of the rifle.


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[gatorfan]

Excellent!!! :smiley_green_with_e

X2

 

[Fugaloo]

Sounds like you are shooting a Remington model 11. It's an A5 copy made for a few years starting in 1911 under license from John Browning. That's where the 1100, and 1187 get their model numbers, the model 11 was the predecessor to Remington's auto loader family.

 

[spectr17]

3056 hunter. You need to aim low on high angle shots, whether uphill or downhill. Fugaloo's link explains it perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifleman%27s_rule

 

[ltdann]

San Diego.....on some orchard property my bro has permission to hunt....4free:thumbs up2:

Heeeeyyyy! I live in North San Diego county, go figure.

Not prying but whats the nearest town and/or road junction. A bunch of us are trying to figure how far the hogs have spread from Cuyamaca.

 

[3056_HUNTER]

got it.....aim high! feel like im back in the USAF atiotic-wavin-flag

 

[Farmerdoug]

Hell Yeah! You're turning out to be the new "Pork Chop" assasin! Keep up the good work..........:hog chewing: