Talking about guides and experiences

[Speckmisser]

Hey folks,

This just occurred to me after reading through a few posts lately, both here and other places. A lot of guys feel constrained from mentioning the outfitter they've just hunted with... regardless of whether the hunt was a success or a negative experience. Some of them are afraid they'll get their hand slapped for "pimping" the outfitter, and others may be afraid of negative repercussions for discussing a bad experience.

I'm here to tell you that not only is it OK to name names, it's better for everybody if you do.

First of all, the advertising policy on JHO is designed to keep outfitters from coming in and plugging their operations. It's not fair for some outfitters to pay for advertising here and others to come in and get it free.

But, that's different from an honest, first-person review. Part of the value and promise of this site is the opportunity for members to share information, including outfitters' names and details about the hunt. You may or may not want to share what you paid, since you might have received a special rate, but everything else is fair game. You may be helping out another hunter who's trying to make a decision about going with that guide.

Of course we're aware that some outfitters are apt to send in "shills" to pose as customers, and that's a risk that all sites like JHO have to take. That's a different issue though.

Anyway, if you hunted with a guide or outfitter and want to write it up, PLEASE don't be afraid to share the name of the outfitter or guide. If you had a bad experience, be honest and give the facts. Maybe they will be here to offer a rebuttal, but that's fair enough. The readers can sort it out for themselves.

 

[hatchet1]

phil,strong topic as usual

i would hope that folks would share there experiences good or bad for the benefit
of the hoghunter,so lets here it gents,who,s the man these days?what is the going rate for a 2 day hog hunt?what are the sucess
rates of different guides,what areas are the guided hunts offered in?what does your hard earned cake get you these days?
i'll start,when i was guiding hog hunts full time we got 400 hundred bucks for a 2 day hunt which included camping on the
property, 1 on 1 guiding ,full game care and trans to a local butcher, needless to say,the guide pay was extremly poor for what was involved.
but at that time in my tenure ,it was not about the money,and still,to this day is not..in my opinion, a quality hunt is not measured
on stopping a heart beat,but the many other experiences you may have along the way,the" coue de gras' is the icing on the cake!! and there were many

whatcha got?

 

[hronk]

I have a question that may be a little off topic but not to far off for you guys. Are there outfitters/Ranches that charge access fees for those that want to hunt on their own or at least semi-on there own. I would expect to pay almost??? as much as a fully guided hunt, but without the "hurry up, get it done" attitude of some of the guides. I have never hunted with a guide, but that is the feeling I get from some of the stories that I have read....hronk

 

[CATManReid]

Heads up hatchet! Backcountry is going to nail you for punctuation and sentence structure...

As far as the topic at hand, I think it's a great idea Speck. I had one negative experience and that was with an outfitters son that I went to school with. We got to know eachother pretty well, went on some hunts together, and I even helped guide a goat hunt for them. I called up my "buddy" one day and told him my cousin wanted to shoot a pig and I wanted to give them the business. He was thrilled, as was I, and we set a price.

Got out to the ranch and got things rolling. Didn't see a pig all day, but I nailed a coyote after my "buddy" tells me to shoot. Kept hunting til dark, and started loading my truck. That's when the B.S. started. We're about ready to leave and he tells me I owe him $250 for the coyote and the guide fees...SAY WHAT? We discussed the price of the pig, should we take one, and that was it. No pig=no fee. Plain and simple. He says they turned the pig hunt into a coyote hunt and since we were "successful" it was $250.

Needless to say, I had some choice words for them and left. We settled on $200 because my cousin insisted. Since then, I've never been back abd have yet to talk to my "buddy." Gotta love it.

Talk about a Twisselman rip-off. Just my thoughts.

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

Great Thread Phil....I think this thread is long overdue. Personally, I am itching for a pig hunt. I am looking for a guide in the Nor Cal area (Rifle/SpotnStalk). I'm not really looking to make the drive to Central Cal and hunt with my usual guide, but something a few hours from Sacramento would be great. Found a few guides on the guide section in JHO who are advertising $750-$1000 for a hog hunt. That's just insane in my book. Looking for something a little more manageable. If anybody knows of any guides in the area, please post up....

 

[hatchet1]

750-1000 bucks

it might be time to re-evaluate my time,and start putting the hurt to the hogs commercially
once again!! although im not to sure i could look a client in the face and say,well that was a great hunt!!that 'll be $1000
bucks please for that hog,see you next time

who am i kiddin,of course i could

if your paying ,
im staying...

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

QUOTE (hatchet1 @ Dec 27 2008, 10:15 AM)

750-1000 bucks

it might be time to re-evaluate my time,and start putting the hurt to the hogs commercially
once again!! although im not to sure i could look a client in the face and say,well that was a great hunt!!that 'll be $1000
bucks please for that hog,see you next time

who am i kiddin,of course i could

if your paying ,
im staying...

Hatchet.....I agree with you. I am not a guide, nor have I ever been. When I was living in CA a few years ago, I was lucky enough to gain permission to hunt a small ranch in Parkfield. I would head up maybe a few times a year and hunt the ranch. I feel very lucky for the owner to allow me to do so. During the remainder of the year, I would do what a lot of people do and "pay to play" would be on my agenda. When you get into the numbers of $750-$1000, what are you "really" paying for? Throw in lodging, meals, varmits, still does not make sense in my book. Personally, I just think your riping someone off and taking advantage of a person who doesnt know what the "general" going rate is of a hog hunt. We all make our own choices and I am fully onboard with the people can spend there money how the choose. I would have a VERY hard time looking someone in the face and collecting that type of money when guides who have been in the business for YEARS charge $400-$600 for the same type of hunt....

 

[muskeg]

I went on a good hunt with Tom and John up in NorCal out of Maxwell .... they have a good huntable ranch. Their business is called Antelope Valley ....

As for the up to $1000 hunts ... I think the Tejon Guided hunt is up around there now. But you do get nice lodging and good food .... until you kill .... then it's out the door.

I have been on several guided Hog hunts and even at the Tejon hunt it has always been 'get that Hog as fast as possible' type hunt. Much different than an Alaskan Guided hunt. If you book a 7 or 10 day hunt and kill on the first day .... most of the time you can stay on and continue to help, hunt, fish, sightseeing or just relax at camp.

Meeting a Guide at the gas station on the corner was a different type of thing for me and is the way many Cali Hog Guides conduct their business. I am surprised some don't set up camps in remote valleys and base a hunt from there. It would be a much better experience. Most are just morning and evening 'road' hunts and many Guides are used to getting a Hog on the first evening out. I usually have taken my hogs on the last mornings hunt .... LOL .... and I could tell that the Guides were not used to that type of hunt.

It's the way the industry has developed and the Cali Guides seem to have a never ending supply of client / hunters to take those type of hunts.

And I will probably go again ......

 

[hatchet1]

strong point muskeg, i might add too,that folks need to ask the "hard questions" before booking a hunt.
PLEASE!!stay away from guides that charge you JUNK FEE'S!! such as the 2 inch tusk rule or the weight
rule, a good guide will have you hammer what ever you want and charge you a flat fee, no skinning,no retrieval,
no ground shrinkage,no long tooth sow rule, basically no b.s.. get it in writing if you have too,to many dudes get screwed
by the all mighty "guide" who raises the fee upon the harvest. just my

now go get some

 

[Deleted member 14133]

QUOTE (CATManReid @ Dec 26 2008, 09:33 PM) http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=1073273

Heads up hatchet! Backcountry is going to nail you for punctuation and sentence structure...

As far as the topic at hand, I think it's a great idea Speck. I had one negative experience and that was with an outfitters son that I went to school with. We got to know eachother pretty well, went on some hunts together, and I even helped guide a goat hunt for them. I called up my "buddy" one day and told him my cousin wanted to shoot a pig and I wanted to give them the business. He was thrilled, as was I, and we set a price.

Got out to the ranch and got things rolling. Didn't see a pig all day, but I nailed a coyote after my "buddy" tells me to shoot. Kept hunting til dark, and started loading my truck. That's when the B.S. started. We're about ready to leave and he tells me I owe him $250 for the coyote and the guide fees...SAY WHAT? We discussed the price of the pig, should we take one, and that was it. No pig=no fee. Plain and simple. He says they turned the pig hunt into a coyote hunt and since we were "successful" it was $250.

Needless to say, I had some choice words for them and left. We settled on $200 because my cousin insisted. Since then, I've never been back abd have yet to talk to my "buddy." Gotta love it.

Talk about a Twisselman rip-off. Just my thoughts.

This may not be a totally fair post. There are several members of the Twisselman family that have separate guide services on their 74,000 acre ranch. I've hunted with two different brothers who have their own separate guide services. I enjoyed one (Nolan Twisselman- Twisselman Outfitters) very much and would recommend him to anyone.
The other was only so-so. We got pigs, but the young guides rushed every one around, and spent a lot of time shooting coyotes themselves.

 

[NikolaKangrga]

Back in August, My GF booked a hunt with Lockwood Hunting Services. She booked a 2 night 2 day hunt (arrive fri night & leave sun evening or when hog is harvested) Mr. Lockwood told us to meet him at a corner gas station in the town of hopland at approximately 4:30. He was one hour late and told us he went to a friends birthday party the night before and was up late, causing him to oversleep. He had us fallow him to his lease ranch where he had us park my truck on the inside of the gate and hop into his with all my gear. No more then 2 minutes into the "truck ride" to his "VERY RUSTIC" cabin, I spot a boar on a full run roughly 100-120 yards away from the truck. Lockwood told me to grab my bow and jump out of the truck. I also must add that it was still Pitch black out. Once arriving to the cabin, we unloaded our stuff where i found out it was a one bedroom cabin, and two couches in the "living room". Lockwood told us that he sleeps in the bedroom, and we would have the couches. We then headed out for our search for hogs. The weather was HOT during the days and we hunted in the truck. He drove us around in his dodge diesel from sun up until about 10:30-11am, then he would drive back to the cabin, make lunch (hot dogs or hamburgers), and sleep until 3:30-4pm. Then we would drive around the ranch once again looking for hogs. Sunday morning came around and we headed out for another drive, not seeing anything by about 8 am, lockwood decides that the pigs where not moving at all and tells me that if I would call it a weekend, he would call me when he decides the pigs where once again "moving" and have me back up to the ranch for a half a day hunt. Considering how my weekend was going, i decided to take him up on the offer. We packed up our gear and headed to the front gate by 12. We sat at the front gate and talked for about an hour when my GF spots a herd of about 15 pigs 300 yards away in the middle of a field. Tim tells me to grab my bow and we start heading in their direction. Once we break the 100 yard marker, I finish the stalk by myself and harvest a 100-120lb sow. I was VERY pleased with my pig, just not the experience. Have not hunted with an outfitter since, and do not plan to anytime soon. Due to my GF's lack of knowledge in the outfitting business, she booked the hunt through a "broker" or whatever they are called. So she ended up paying the middle man on top of lockwood. The out the door price was $975.00...........YES, i was not very pleased when I found out the price.

 

[leftyhunter]

One alternative to a guide is to join a hunting club such has Wilderness Unlimited or Golden Ram. What you get for your money is a chance to hunt pigs on private land although there will be other hunters there has well but I can not say it was to crowded. I know some hunters do harvest pigs and I saw sign at all but one of the WU ranch's. I myself have seen pigs twice at two different ranch's and I missed an opportunity to take a small boar. I know WU is a controversial subject at JHO but I think it can be a viable option in no way I am saying its better or worse then any rival organization.

Leftyhunter

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

QUOTE (NikolaKangrga @ Dec 27 2008, 11:15 PM)

Back in August, My GF booked a hunt with Lockwood Hunting Services. She booked a 2 night 2 day hunt (arrive fri night & leave sun evening or when hog is harvested) Mr. Lockwood told us to meet him at a corner gas station in the town of hopland at approximately 4:30. He was one hour late and told us he went to a friends birthday party the night before and was up late, causing him to oversleep. He had us fallow him to his lease ranch where he had us park my truck on the inside of the gate and hop into his with all my gear. No more then 2 minutes into the "truck ride" to his "VERY RUSTIC" cabin, I spot a boar on a full run roughly 100-120 yards away from the truck. Lockwood told me to grab my bow and jump out of the truck. I also must add that it was still Pitch black out. Once arriving to the cabin, we unloaded our stuff where i found out it was a one bedroom cabin, and two couches in the "living room". Lockwood told us that he sleeps in the bedroom, and we would have the couches. We then headed out for our search for hogs. The weather was HOT during the days and we hunted in the truck. He drove us around in his dodge diesel from sun up until about 10:30-11am, then he would drive back to the cabin, make lunch (hot dogs or hamburgers), and sleep until 3:30-4pm. Then we would drive around the ranch once again looking for hogs. Sunday morning came around and we headed out for another drive, not seeing anything by about 8 am, lockwood decides that the pigs where not moving at all and tells me that if I would call it a weekend, he would call me when he decides the pigs where once again "moving" and have me back up to the ranch for a half a day hunt. Considering how my weekend was going, i decided to take him up on the offer. We packed up our gear and headed to the front gate by 12. We sat at the front gate and talked for about an hour when my GF spots a herd of about 15 pigs 300 yards away in the middle of a field. Tim tells me to grab my bow and we start heading in their direction. Once we break the 100 yard marker, I finish the stalk by myself and harvest a 100-120lb sow. I was VERY pleased with my pig, just not the experience. Have not hunted with an outfitter since, and do not plan to anytime soon. Due to my GF's lack of knowledge in the outfitting business, she booked the hunt through a "broker" or whatever they are called. So she ended up paying the middle man on top of lockwood. The out the door price was $975.00...........YES, i was not very pleased when I found out the price.

Wow...Glad you got your hog, but that simply sucks. That's an "expensive" lesson.....

 

[hatchet1]

QUOTE (NikolaKangrga @ Dec 27 2008, 11:15 PM)

Back in August, My GF booked a hunt with Lockwood Hunting Services. She booked a 2 night 2 day hunt (arrive fri night & leave sun evening or when hog is harvested) Mr. Lockwood told us to meet him at a corner gas station in the town of hopland at approximately 4:30. He was one hour late and told us he went to a friends birthday party the night before and was up late, causing him to oversleep. He had us fallow him to his lease ranch where he had us park my truck on the inside of the gate and hop into his with all my gear. No more then 2 minutes into the "truck ride" to his "VERY RUSTIC" cabin, I spot a boar on a full run roughly 100-120 yards away from the truck. Lockwood told me to grab my bow and jump out of the truck. I also must add that it was still Pitch black out. Once arriving to the cabin, we unloaded our stuff where i found out it was a one bedroom cabin, and two couches in the "living room". Lockwood told us that he sleeps in the bedroom, and we would have the couches. We then headed out for our search for hogs. The weather was HOT during the days and we hunted in the truck. He drove us around in his dodge diesel from sun up until about 10:30-11am, then he would drive back to the cabin, make lunch (hot dogs or hamburgers), and sleep until 3:30-4pm. Then we would drive around the ranch once again looking for hogs. Sunday morning came around and we headed out for another drive, not seeing anything by about 8 am, lockwood decides that the pigs where not moving at all and tells me that if I would call it a weekend, he would call me when he decides the pigs where once again "moving" and have me back up to the ranch for a half a day hunt. Considering how my weekend was going, i decided to take him up on the offer. We packed up our gear and headed to the front gate by 12. We sat at the front gate and talked for about an hour when my GF spots a herd of about 15 pigs 300 yards away in the middle of a field. Tim tells me to grab my bow and we start heading in their direction. Once we break the 100 yard marker, I finish the stalk by myself and harvest a 100-120lb sow. I was VERY pleased with my pig, just not the experience. Have not hunted with an outfitter since, and do not plan to anytime soon. Due to my GF's lack of knowledge in the outfitting business, she booked the hunt through a "broker" or whatever they are called. So she ended up paying the middle man on top of lockwood. The out the door price was $975.00...........YES, i was not very pleased when I found out the price.

DUDE!!

i would also add to my list of never's"NO SO CALLED HUNT BROKERS" most of those slap sticks have never hunted before and have no idea what there selling you but can type a mean essay on the computer,sorry for your loss bro,but kudos to the g-friend for setting you up
with what she probably thought was the hunt of a lifetime, that is a great present

 

[NikolaKangrga]

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DUDE!!

i would also add to my list of never's"NO SO CALLED HUNT BROKERS" most of those slap sticks have never hunted before and have no idea what there selling you but can type a mean essay on the computer,sorry for your loss bro,but kudos to the g-friend for setting you up
with what she probably thought was the hunt of a lifetime, that is a great present

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Yes! I was VERY happy with the fact that she got me a hunt! Not only did that specific hunt put a great stalk and pig under my belt with my bow, but made her fall in LOVE with hunting. She is now putting more meat in the freezer then Iam!!!

 

[Tim Lockwood]

Nick:

I'm just wondering what you are so un-happy with. You booked a pig hunt in August in the middle of summer through a booking agency and you ended up getting a pig. Sometimes booking agencies are not the best way to go and I noticed in another post you were angry about the price that your girlfriend paid.

We were hunting near the brush where a couple of the bigger boars had been spotted recently (like you wanted). Those bigger boars (like I said are usually nocturnal) and since we were not seeing much I offered you an additional hunting day for free to give you another chance but you seem to be un-happy still.

In my experience if I booked a hunt and I was un-happy with something I would have called the booking agency immediately and also spoken with the outfitter who happens to to be me right away. I don't know what you might have been told when booking your hunt but you should have brought it to my attention if something was wrong. Not to mention you emailed me later to book another hunt so that raises some questions. I treat all of my clients like my own friends and I wish you could have spoke to me as if I was one of yours rather then rambling on a board and adding more to the story two years later. I've been getting regular clients calling me about your posts so I decided to get on here and check for myself.

If anyone wants any references or evaluations on myself or any of my guides I have a couple hundred from successful as well as un-successful hunters that can have a little more accurancy in their stories.

A little more to add:

Driving around in a pickup truck has never been the way we have hunted the ranch. We did use the truck to get to key areas on the ranch to hunt. As far as meeting hunters the day before the hunt that was something that I did for you as it states on our contract "arrival time can not be any earlier then two hours before legal hunting light of your first day." Also, how was it that I spotted a pig at dark running through a field? Kind of hard to see something black if its dark.

Tim Lockwood
707-888-2859

 

[NikolaKangrga]

Nikola:

I had a past client of mine call me about your public whining on a hunting forum about me.

Next time try to have some of your facts in order before you try to post some bs on a hunting page. If you were so un-happy with your hunt you should have brought it up with me and why if you didn't like what I had to offer would you try to book more hunts with me?

1.)Maybe you should have booked with me directly if you were unhappy instead of through a booking agency.

2.)I'm such a bad guy that when the hunting seemed slow where we were hunting I offered you another day if we didn't get anything.

Think next time before you burn your bridges.

Tim

Tim Lockwood ~ Outfitter
Lockwood Hunting Services
P.O. Box 327 - Windsor - CA - 95492
(707) 888-2859
tim@lockwoodhuntingservices.com
www.lockwoodhuntingservices.com
______________________________________________________________

Mr. lockwood,
Below is a copy of what I posted online...

"Back in August, My GF booked a hunt with Lockwood Hunting Services.
She booked a 2 night 2 day hunt (arrive fri night & leave sun evening
or when hog is harvested) Mr. Lockwood told us to meet him at a corner
gas station in the town of hopland at approximately 4:30. He was one
hour late and told us he went to a friends birthday party the night
before and was up late, causing him to oversleep. He had us fallow him
to his lease ranch where he had us park my truck on the inside of the
gate and hop into his with all my gear. No more then 2 minutes into
the "truck ride" to his "VERY RUSTIC" cabin, I spot a boar on a full
run roughly 100-120 yards away from the truck. Lockwood told me to
grab my bow and jump out of the truck. I also must add that it was
still Pitch black out. Once arriving to the cabin, we unloaded our
stuff where i found out it was a one bedroom cabin, and two couches in
the "living room". Lockwood told us that he sleeps in the bedroom, and
we would have the couches. We then headed out for our search for hogs.
The weather was HOT during the days and we hunted in the truck. He
drove us around in his dodge diesel from sun up until about
10:30-11am, then he would drive back to the cabin, make lunch (hot
dogs or hamburgers), and sleep until 3:30-4pm. Then we would drive
around the ranch once again looking for hogs. Sunday morning came
around and we headed out for another drive, not seeing anything by
about 8 am, lockwood decides that the pigs where not moving at all and
tells me that if I would call it a weekend, he would call me when he
decides the pigs where once again "moving" and have me back up to the
ranch for a half a day hunt. Considering how my weekend was going, i
decided to take him up on the offer. We packed up our gear and headed
to the front gate by 12. We sat at the front gate and talked for about
an hour when my GF spots a herd of about 15 pigs 300 yards away in the
middle of a field. Tim tells me to grab my bow and we start heading in
their direction. Once we break the 100 yard marker, I finish the stalk
by myself and harvest a 100-120lb sow. I was VERY pleased with my pig,
just not the experience. Have not hunted with an outfitter since, and
do not plan to anytime soon. Due to my GF's lack of knowledge in the
outfitting business, she booked the hunt through a "broker" or
whatever they are called. So she ended up paying the middle man on top
of lockwood. The out the door price was $975.00...........YES, i was
not very pleased when I found out the price."

Tim, please let me know what part of that posting was not 100% true.
You tell me to "next time get your facts in order"??? Exactly which
facts are you speaking of? Because all facts I have posted are 100%
true. Iam many things but not a lier.

To answer your questions:
I was not trying to book hunts with you tim. I was respectably
comparing prices with you.

"1.)Maybe you should have booked with me directly if you were unhappy
instead of through a booking agency." Do you not remember what I
wrote? I did not book through a broker. My GF who has NO knowledge of
the hunting industry did. I would have booked directly through you.

"2.)I'm such a bad guy that when the hunting seemed slow where we were
hunting I offered you another day if we didn't get anything." Tim, You
are 100% correct. You offered me a 1/2 day which I respectably
included in my posting. Like I said, I included all facts... the pos
and the cons to my hunt with you. I was not trying to make you look
like a bad person, I was sharing my personal experience like many of
the members who I know personally asked me to do.

As for thinking before I burn my bridges???? I guess I do not fully
understand that statement? But ok....

PS- Congrats on the new bear property.
Nick-
_______________________________________________________________

Nick,
No problem. I still wish you could have called me first but I was called and told a lot worse then what you really wrote.

Talk with you later,

Tim

Tim Lockwood ~ Outfitter
Lockwood Hunting Services
P.O. Box 327 - Windsor - CA - 95492
(707) 888-2859
tim@lockwoodhuntingservices.com
www.lockwoodhuntingservices.com

 

[NikolaKangrga]

Tim I was under the impression we resolved this matter a month ago when you emailed me, accusing me of "not having my facts in order" and "spreading bs" on public forums. After emailing you back exactly what I wrote on the forum you seemed to agree that the truth had not been stretched.
But, once again I will answer all of your questions....

I do recall informing you that I was interested in a meat hog. I know I have not been involved in the hunting world as long as you have, but I am petty sure that means a smaller framed pig. INFACT I am 100% positive my EXACT words were "80-100lb" pig. As for telling you I wanted a "bigger boar"...???...Im not sure where you got that.

You are 100% correct, you did offer me a extra 1/2 day to hunt. Not full, but yes a half. Which at the time I happily agreed to! In fact, if Im not mistaken, I believe I even added that detail to my original post?

I believe you could not be more correct regarding what I should have done. I should have explained how I felt after the hunt I experienced with your hunting services. To explain myself, My first guided experience was with you tim. I did not know what to expect, or what not to expect! After the hunt was over, I was so excited about my harvest, that not much else was running through my mind. But, like I said before, I was green to the outfitting business and was unsure of what to expect. Now that two years have passed, I have learned what to expect from a outfitting business and yes, I must say I am unhappy with my experience.

As for emailing you back to book a hunt..... Tim, did I book a hunt? or did I ask prices for specific hunts? A month ago when we spoke via e-mail I told you I was "respectably comparing prices with you". That has not changed tim.

As for anyone wanting a recommendation for Lockwood Hunting Services, I believe that is a great idea. What I wrote regarding my hunt at lockwood hunting services was MY personal experience. Just like ALL businesses in the United States, someone will eventually give some personal constructive criticism regarding the services that you offer. Some may be GREAT, others may be decent, and one or two may be worst then others. But those criticisms are what make businesses great. They learn from their mistakes and make changes (if need be).

Meeting me the day before the hunt? I dont understand? I believe you have me mixed up with another client tim. We were supposed to meet you friday night "somewhere", but after speaking with you and both agreeing I only lived 30 minutes away, I would just meet you saturday morning at the corner gas station at approximately 4:30am. So..... meeting me the day before the hunt???...??? umm.... ok? I met you the day OF the hunt. Remember tim, the day before the hunt you attended a friends birthday party, which was the reason you were an hour late the morning of the hunt. (or so you told me)

How could you have spotted a pig at dark if it were dark out..... Tim, I understand that you may have many clients and may forget things about specific clients hunts. But as my GF and I read that statement we both shook our heads. (remember tim, she was sitting in the back of your truck during the hunt). Well, to start over, I spotted the pig running across the field. Not you. You told me to jump out of the truck with my bow. The way I saw the hog was quite spectacular... (sarcasm)... As we were driving through your lease property, your headlights where shining directly across a field which just happened to have a hog in it which we jumped with the truck. After spooking the hog, he began running across the field which was "illuminated" from your headlights. The movement caught my eye and I pointed him out to you and krista (my gf). After he ran over the top of the ridge, you told me he was a good boar, I asked you how you could tell he was a boar, and you told me "the pair of nuts between his legs". Hey tim, have you ever seen a black cat run across a street at night? I have multiple times. Funny, its black and its dark out...

Tim, absolutely EVERYTHING I have written in ANY forum is NOTHING but 100% truthful. I hope you can except my personal criticism and learn from it if you choose to.

Look, Tim, I feel as if you feel Iam targeting you personally, not your business. Like I told you multiple times, nothing I wrote was meant to target you personally. I would also like to add, Tim, I like you as a person. I spent two days with you, we shared a few laughs and a great harvest (my opinion). The reason I posted how I felt about my hunt was because the TOPIC of this forum is "Talking about guides and experiences". I shared my experience.

As for all reading this post, I apologize for the "Myspace" drama.
Nick-

 

[Tim Lockwood]

References and phone numbers are available from both un-successful and successful clients. You can also see them on our website. Feel free to contact me anytime in order to receive these lists of their hunting experiences.

Thanks,

Tim Lockwood
707-888-2859

 

[catchdog]

talking about guides and experiences

hronk i dont know about Cal, but in texas you can find ranchers that will let you hunt for$100 a day. i just came back from a place we payed $100 a day per person and he put in a nice bunkhouse took us out picked us up and let us fish his pounds and shoot varmits and hogs for that money.we had to cook and clean our own hogs but thats half the fun. go to texas lease land and you can get the info and make some calls.