After raising fees, Idaho sells fewer out-of-state tags

[spectr17]

Hunting revenue slumps | Spokesman.com | Oct 23, 2009

 

[Kentuck]

That was one of the reasons I didn't want to go back to Idaho this year. That and the zone we've hunted three years in a row was a zoo last year.

 

[Sigma]

Unfortunately for Idaho, elk haven't quite figured out where state lines are. If you pull stuff like that on hunters in this economy, you shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.

 

[Rotorhead]

I got a good laugh out of the last statement "There are no fee increases planned for 2010." Gee, you think?

They lick their chops over the thought of increased revenue but can't figure out why they actually took in less. I can't believe that they actually had to fund a survey to 30,000 people to figure out why. More wasted $$.

I understand Oregon is doing the same thing for 2010. Just another state I won't be able to afford to hunt in anymore. It makes it even worse when the states raid the income from tags & licenses to pay for projects other than wildlife enhancement (like California).

End rant.:mad-fumin-red:

 

[richracer1]

The lack of non-resident hunters coming to ID is a bitter-sweet deal for me. I'm an ID resident, although stationed at Vandenberg AFB, CA. I found out in 2008 that as a resident, I can buy a left-over non-resident deer or elk tag at the non-resident price. So the sweet portion is more chances a non-res antlered elk tag for the area I hunt will be available. The bitter part is the increased price of that tag. Anyway, I look at it like this, the non-res ID elk tag is $417 where as if I put in for a CA resident elk tag, that will cost $376.

This plan allows me to get an antlerless and antlered elk tags for the same area.

 

[richracer1]

Oh and while I was looking up the price of a CA resident elk tag, I noticed the non-res price, $1163!

Kind of make ID's elk tag prices seem pretty good.

 

[ltdann]

Oh and while I was looking up the price of a CA resident elk tag, I noticed the non-res price, $1163!

Kind of make ID's elk tag prices seem pretty good.

Don't the only draw one (1) non-resident?

 

[richracer1]

Don't the only draw one (1) non-resident?

You'd have to look that up on the CA DFG website. I was only looking at prices.

The area I hunt in ID, I think the non-res elk tags are OTC.

 

[easymoney]

This is not limited to ID, but is having an effect on all states NR tag sales...
CA has got to the worst, if it moves charge more...

 

[richracer1]

This is not limited to ID, but is having an effect on all states NR tag sales...
CA has got to the worst, if it moves charge more...

Plus, I would imagine the non-lead requirement has deterred a lot of out-of-state hunter from coming to CA. They don't want to deal with buying new ammo to find what works, develope a new load w/unleaded bullets, resighting their rifle, and so on. Wasn't there a thread on this site about how much money CA DFG lost due to the no lead requirement?

 

[spectr17]

MO has been in a tag price increase war with IL, IA and KS and it's cut into my trips and how many tags I buy now. The residents don't want the out of state compitition for the deer and turkey but they moan n groan when their mom and pop stores close up due to no sales.

 

[easymoney]

Plus, I would imagine the non-lead requirement has deterred a lot of out-of-state hunter from coming to CA. They don't want to deal with buying new ammo to find what works, develope a new load w/unleaded bullets, resighting their rifle, and so on. Wasn't there a thread on this site about how much money CA DFG lost due to the no lead requirement?

IMHO, these all contribute to CAs already obvious problems, here and out of state hunting for NR is changing because they are trying to carry all of the burden on NR applicants. The combined costs and having to buy a non refundable lic before applying is going to take it's toll and at least that is not a requirement in CA. The lead ban will be going nation wide and we here are being used as the sounding board and test puppy.

 

[SoJo]

I went to Idaho this year...new area for me. usually I hunt out of Chalis, but was coaxed into going out of Salmon area. Come to find out the person who wanted us to go to that area hadn't been in 20yrs, so we spent the better part of 8-days scouting and having animals shot out from underneath us! The plus side is I now now where to go in that area and will go back again next year if I don't draw for Wyoming. Personally, I'd rather spend the fees, then spending all the time in calif woods seeing minimal deer/animals. When we went to Idaho we'd see 50, 60, 80+ deer in a given day -- yea, some were small and a lot of does -- elk on high ridges that crossed our Area allowed to hunt, but we also saw a bull moose and mountain sheep.