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I took my son to his first elk hunt at the Goshute reservationb in Ibapah Ut which is near Wendover NV. The reservation is 320k acres and features the Deep Creek Mtn range which rises up to 10k ft and is very steep. I purchased a cow tag for $1k which also covered 4 days of lodging , a guide and 3 home cooked meals. I figured thats a good deal vs say geting an OTC tag in Colo and driving at least 18 hrs to Durango ( I live in LA) and not knowing where to go since I live too far to scout plus there would be a lot of competion. Nothing wrong with hunting in Colo I have hunted there and slain a few mighty doves but economics is economics.

The reservation is unique in hunting elk vs hunting on state lands private or public since they allow rifle hunts for bulls during the rut. They have had bulls up to 400bci taken. A bull hunt is $10,500 and may go up next year. I did see a few bulls one of them was very large but then again I saw them at quite a distance.

I relized the importance of good optics. Our guide had a Swarski (sp?) spotting scope whih worked very well. I underestand that there are now HD scopes that cost 5k but they are worth it. The basic technique is spot and stalk. The guide was not enthusiastic about hunting the dark timber . One could argue that do to safety concerns dark timber hunting might not be desirable. The guide did not have chains but did provide a 4wd pick-up. Bringing chains to the hunt might be a good move.

A major problem was the weather. Highs were in the high 40's and lows were 18f. The problem was due to previous snows that had melted somewhat the elk already had an extra layer of fat so by early morning they would bed down in the dark timber to stay cool. The other problem was a full moon so the elk would feed at night.

The guide really wanted my son Brandon to get his first elk and brought in his younger brother who was in better shape to accompany my son who was able to scramble up the steep mtns to finf elk. On the last day my guide did locate a large heard of cows and after a tough hike my son and the younger guide were able to get within approx 300 yds of the elk. The heard was in a meadow and there was no cover to get closer. My son used his .270 win which at the range he had tight groups of an inch high at 100 yds. Not good enough at best he might of wounded a cow but the cow made it over a far mtn and the guide could not track it plus there was no blood trail. I know elk have survived bullet wounds I hope this one did.

I dont know when I can hunt with my son next year or not since he has enlisted in the USMC and of course his time will not be his own. If I do get the opportunity to take him back to the Goshute reservation I will but I will give my son a new rifle most likely a 300 win mag with a damm good scope. All in all I enjoyed my hunt and I thing the Goshute reserfvation is a good deal. I would argue that a guided hunt makes sense for novice elk hunters. I will also try to get into better shape for although some elk are harvested there by road hunting in common with other guided hunts not all are and being in good shape makes a difference although it is easier said then done.

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Sorry to hear you didn't get one. My friend and I lucked out there and got two a couple of years ago.

You had warm weather compared to our hunt. It was 9 degrees when I shot my elk. We also went a tad earlier, Nov. We had snow but not really that much. My friend's elk was also a long shot. I didn't have my range finder but I know it was an easy 300 to 350. Again, primarily because of no cover to get closer.
 

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Lefty, I heard from a goofball that you were going there. I didn't know when you were going. If I do it again, it would be in Sept or Oct during the rut. Easier to locate them when they are bugling. And no snow so getting around the whole reservation wouldn't be a problem. When we were there last year, I wanted to get drop off on Chicken Creek and do the walk back down a big finger to the road on bottom. We couldn't get up there due to too much snow.
 

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Hi guys,
I was told by my guide that it can snow between Sept and May athough of course less likely in the fall. Oct can be more difficult to book a hunt because that is when the tribe issues elk taga for its members bull tags are by draw only and not many are issued to tribal members since that is where the money is at. Are cows easier to locate during the rut? My guide recomended Nov or Dec being better then Jan. Ihave to wait and see what date my son starts and ends boot camp plus when he will start MOS training. I will try to get into better shape so I can hunt there. Kentuck is dead on about potentia lack of cover. Here is a thought if we could go there at the same time we could split the cost of a large van and gas.
Take care,
Leftyhunter
 

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Good to hear that you were able to hunt with your son before he went into the Corps. Way to send him off! Time well spent IMO! Thanks for the story Lefty.
 

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Leftyhunter,


I'm thinking of trying that cow elk hunt also and I'm wondering what you thought of the lodging, food and quality of the guides? Is it a drive ubtil you spot animals than stalk from there type of hunt? Thanks

I'm sure your boy will remember your hunt for a long time to come.
 

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Hi Daddy63,

The lodging was fine it was in a tribal members home. It had cable tv which my son liked during the afternoon siesta. I could of lived without it. They have different cooks depending on when you go. Mine was Debbie I would try to get her if you can. She is a good cook and my son who is 17 and eats like a horse had plenty of food leftover. My guide did work hard to get us on a cow elk but has stated before there were some problems. For shure it would not hure to bring chains to fit the guides pick-up ( you would have to ask in advance of course for which model of truck they drive) chains can also make a good tip. Make sure the guide has a good spot
ing scope. Mine did he had a Swoarski (sp?) which really works!

I cant emphazie strongly enough not making the mistake I made and using a whimpy .270. Yes Jack o'Conner was right and it is the best deer cartridge but try to go with at least a 7mm mag .300 mag being better and have a top flight scope. You may shoot the cow at less then 100 yards but maybe it might be closer to 350yds because their is a lack of cover. Yes they have had fat clients bag big bulls but like all mtn hunting it pays to be in shape.

Good Luck,
Leftyhunter
 

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Awesome thanks leftyhunter. It sounds like our sons have a lot in common, man they sure can eat. I appreciate the advice and I'm glad we have 7 mags... Thanks a lot.
 

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I have hunted Ibapah 2 times. Once about 2002 and once abuot 2008. The first time was run by an elder member and communication was slow. They had no accomodations at the time and it was camp only but with a $15/nite charge with hookups. Got my cow on the third day with minimal work 300 winmag. The guide was good, young, knew the area. He smoked like a fiend and the cab of the truck reeked- however, he found animals. We mostly drove until we spotted them even up to a few miles away and then stalked. We took 2 in very rough terrain and that guy paked it out on a 4trax that no one should have ever taken in terrain like that!
The second hunt was later and they had a committee that was overseeing things and they offered meals, camping , etc for extra$. Still disorganized and had 2 guides who really didn't ahve the knowledge. We did find them and used a .270 (both my partner and I) and it took alot of lead for the .270 to bring them down. They were so far back that it required the meat to be packed out on their back so they brought in another guide to help.
Overall, I liked it, my partner didn't.
 

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