Arizona Elk Lottery Tags

[Jimmy Jones]

Glass Eye,

I thought they charged your card when you apply and then pay you back after the drawings if you're not drawn. Is that not how it works?

JJ

 

[Coues]

No, they charge you an application fee and for your hunting license. They charge you for the tag only if you draw.

 

[DEERSLAM]

JJ you might as well put in for deer and sheep later since your buying a license.

 

[Franklin3]

I have 2 points and I will draw this year................
just keep watching.....................I'll show you how its done................U have to think positive........................................................................
..............And furthermore after i draw my tag I have a local AZ guide who I really enjoy hunting with already lined up on standby so to speak just waiting for me to draw.

 

[BOHNTR]

I've drawn 3 archery bull elk tags in 13 years of applying......the key to drawing (at least for archery) is putting in for zones that aren't as popular. Spend the money and buy the upgraded statistics book and understand it fully. Also keep in mind that EVERY elk unit in AZ can produce 350" bulls, which beyond popular belief is a BIG bull. If you're willing to arrow a bull in the 320" range, you'll have a fun hunt more often than others who search for the elusive 400" bull. JMO

 

[Brian Olson]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Glass eye @ Jan 25 2007, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jimmy Jones @ Jan 25 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

. Since I'm 99.9% (probably closer to 110%) sure that I can't be drawn for a hunt this year, I just went with the cheaper point for $7.50.[/b]

Bonus points are NOT preference points, it's possible to draw a premium tag with NO bonus points.
Also, you didn't save any money buying the bonus point only, if you had applied for a hunt it still would have only cost $7.50, unless you actually draw a tag, then they take the tag fee from your credit card.
[/b][/quote]

JJ is right w/ his assumption that he couldn't have drawn a tag in most of the popular units.

Due to recent policy changes, it IS impossible for a nonresident w/ 0 pts to draw a tag in these units. Say a unit has 100 tags, for example. 10 of those are going to non res and 20 are going to those w/ the highest number of points who applied for that hunt. It's pretty much guaranteed that 10 of those w/ the highest # of points are gonna be non-res, hence all of those NR tags are gonna go to those w/ the highest # of points.

It's a good system because it guarantees that if you put in long enough you will draw a tag. Only thing I dont agree w/ is hunters having to buy a license to participate in the drawing. This precludes a huge % of the application pool strictly due to financial reasons; not a sound decision IMO. This makes hunting in AZ only an option for those individiuals wealthy enough to invest in a tag that will eventually cost them thousands of dollars. It would be nice to see some quality 'trophy' hunts, that any hunter can afford.

 

['Ike']

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BOHNTR @ Feb 4 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I've drawn 3 archery bull elk tags in 13 years of applying......the key to drawing (at least for archery) is putting in for zones that aren't as popular. Spend the money and buy the upgraded statistics book and understand it fully. Also keep in mind that EVERY elk unit in AZ can produce 350" bulls, which beyond popular belief is a BIG bull. If you're willing to arrow a bull in the 320" range, you'll have a fun hunt more often than others who search for the elusive 400" bull. JMO[/b]

Well, now that that's out of the bag!

 

[YukonDall]

JIMMY JONES, SAVE YOUR MONEY & AVOID THE FRUSTRATION. I HAVE 10 POINTS FOR DEER,& 10 FOR ELK. ARIZONA GAME & FISH WILL CHANGE THE RULES AGAIN & AGAIN BEFORE YOU EVER HAVE ENOUGH POINTS TO DRAW. WHEN YOU DO DRAW A DEER TAG WILL $1800-2500 (NEW PRICES ON THE WAY) BUCKS & A GUIDE WILL BE $8,000 BUCKS.....COULD BE IN THE YEAR 2020- 2025 WHO KNOWS. I'M TOO FAR IN TO BACK OUT NOW, & HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SPEND MY $$$ ON. YOU MIGHT BE BETTER OFF BOOKING A ELK HUNT NOW WITH A GOOD OUTFITTER. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE, I HAVE POINTS IN 7 STATES FOR 8 DIFFERENT ANIMALS. ALBERTA IS A EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR A 6X6 BULL ELK, SOME AREAS RUN AS HIGH AS 75% KILL ON 6X6 BULLS. TAKE ER EASY, ..YD.

 

[trophyfever]

JUST READ ALL THESE INTERESTING FACTS AND OPINIONS ON HUNTING THE POINT SYSTEM. I'VE BEEN FORTUATE TO TAKE SEVERAL BULLS IN COLORADO, CALIF. AND "ANY" BULL IS A TROPHY EXPERIENCE.

YOU DO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE POINT SYSTEM HOPING FOR THE BEST AREAS. THANKGOD FOR INTERNET APPLICATIONS(LOWER UP FRONT COSTS),OVERCOUNTER HUNTS, CREDIT CARDS, AND JESSE'S TO KEEP US INFORMED A MEETING NEW HUNTING RELATIONSHIPS.

SOMEONE OUT THERE IS AFTER MY AZ STRIP TAG!!!! 10 PTS TOO. I DON'T USE GUIDES PERSAY BUT THIS AREA HAS SO MANHY OBSTICLES BESIDES, EVEN SEEING A MONSTER MAY CHANGE MY MIND WHEN THAT TIME COMES. HUNTERS IVE TALKED TO WHO SEE MANY DEER USUALLY AREN'T WHERE THE BIG BOYS ARE BUT THE BUCKS THEY DO GET ARE VERY RESPECTAABLE COMPARED TO ANY OTHER STATE-BESIDES FIRST TIME WHITETAIL HUNTERS ARE OVERWHELMED ANYWAY. TROPHY IS IN EYE OF BEHOLDER AS THEY SAY.
THIS WILL ALARM YOU:AFTER PUTTING IN FOR AZBULL FOR 9YERS RIFLE-STARTED ARCHERY AND GOT DRAWN AND HUNTED NEXT TO ACAMP WITH TWO GUYS WITH ONLY 2 PTS.MY FIRST YEAR OF ARCHERY,HUNTING ALONE FOR 7DAYS,MURPHYS LAW EVERYDAY,THREE FLAT TIRES(LAVA) DID NOT SHOOT A BULL---BUT, THE RUT STARTED AND WHAT A GREAT EXPEERIENCE CALLING IN 5(6X6)BULLS WITHIN 15TO60YDS WITH MANY BROKEN TINES(FRUSTATING),ALL 310TO340.IWANTED 350 ABOVE AND COULD AFFORD TO BE PICKY EACH NEW DAY BUT TIME RAN OUT.EVEN HAD BULL JUMP IN POND SWIM TO MY MONTANA DECOY. GREAT MOVIES. I'M HOOKED ON THE RUT.SHOOT A HOYT ULTRTEC,33INCH DRAW.THE BONUS POINT SYSTEM GIVES US SOME HOPE. SEE MY NOTES MULE DEER/WHAT STATES ARE GETTING YOU 2007 TAGS.

 

[trophyfever]

JUST READ ALL THESE INTERESTING FACTS AND OPINIONS ON HUNTING THE POINT SYSTEM. I'VE BEEN FORTUATE TO TAKE SEVERAL BULLS IN COLORADO, CALIF. AND "ANY" BULL IS A TROPHY EXPERIENCE.

YOU DO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE POINT SYSTEM HOPING FOR THE BEST AREAS. THANKGOD FOR INTERNET APPLICATIONS(LOWER UP FRONT COSTS),OVERCOUNTER HUNTS, CREDIT CARDS, AND JESSE'S TO KEEP US INFORMED A MEETING NEW HUNTING RELATIONSHIPS.

SOMEONE OUT THERE IS AFTER MY AZ STRIP TAG!!!! 10 PTS TOO. I DON'T USE GUIDES PERSAY BUT THIS AREA HAS SO MANHY OBSTICLES BESIDES, EVEN SEEING A MONSTER MAY CHANGE MY MIND WHEN THAT TIME COMES. HUNTERS IVE TALKED TO WHO SEE MANY DEER USUALLY AREN'T WHERE THE BIG BOYS ARE BUT THE BUCKS THEY DO GET ARE VERY RESPECTAABLE COMPARED TO ANY OTHER STATE-BESIDES FIRST TIME WHITETAIL HUNTERS ARE OVERWHELMED ANYWAY. TROPHY IS IN EYE OF BEHOLDER AS THEY SAY.
THIS WILL ALARM YOU:AFTER PUTTING IN FOR AZBULL FOR 9YERS RIFLE-STARTED ARCHERY AND GOT DRAWN AND HUNTED NEXT TO ACAMP WITH TWO GUYS WITH ONLY 2 PTS.MY FIRST YEAR OF ARCHERY,HUNTING ALONE FOR 7DAYS,MURPHYS LAW EVERYDAY,THREE FLAT TIRES(LAVA) DID NOT SHOOT A BULL---BUT, THE RUT STARTED AND WHAT A GREAT EXPEERIENCE CALLING IN 5(6X6)BULLS WITHIN 15TO60YDS WITH MANY BROKEN TINES(FRUSTATING),ALL 310TO340.IWANTED 350 ABOVE AND COULD AFFORD TO BE PICKY EACH NEW DAY BUT TIME RAN OUT.EVEN HAD BULL JUMP IN POND SWIM TO MY MONTANA DECOY. GREAT MOVIES. I'M HOOKED ON THE RUT.SHOOT A HOYT ULTRTEC,33INCH DRAW.THE BONUS POINT SYSTEM GIVES US SOME HOPE. SEE MY NOTES MULE DEER/WHAT STATES ARE GETTING YOU 2007 TAGS.