Article on SoCal pigs

[cali-carnivore]

This is just to let people know how many pigs live real close to SoCal but we are unable to hunt. There are areas available to get them here if you look hard enough.

http://www.pe.com/local-news/local-...olific-wild-pigs-a-growing-inland-problem.ece


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[cali-carnivore]

No comments? There are huntable populations in places you probably drive by all the time. Biologists also report breeding populations on Pendelton and around Fallbrook.

 

[Hogless]

Seems these articles come out every six months or so. The numbers that these articles put out on "suspected" pig populations never seem to come close to meshing with fish and game take reports. Last report had something like 6 pigs taken in sd county in a year....while a hunter would be a little whacky to post a sighting of 100 pigs hanging in a riverbed the hunters and biologists down here don't come close in agreeing on the population. Doesn't stop me from my armed hiking out here, just saying....

I guess I should just shadow all these biologists and reporters-who needs a guide?

 

[ltdann]

No comments? There are huntable populations in places you probably drive by all the time. Biologists also report breeding populations on Pendelton and around Fallbrook.

If a hog gets on Pendleton, it's dead. The game warden WILL NOT allow hogs to get a foot hold on the base. Too many endangered species, both plant and animal.

 

[easymoney]

Combined with what hogless states, the difficulty in gaining access to the pigs on huntable land where the discharge of weapons is legal presents some very serious problems.Yes, pigs are an unwanted problem(according to many land owners and the DFG), yes they are a non native feral species displacing native game animals and even preying on them, yes you can buy tags (at one time there were no tags needed and you could take as many as you wanted everyday) to hunt them, and yes they are spotted all over California, even in the heart of SoCal within sight of millions of people. That all being said, being able to harvest legally in SoCal is not as easy as it is always reported, if it were the harvest report figures the DFG posts would be much higher.
Good luck to all you guys down there...

 

[cali-carnivore]

I can personally confirm many of these areas. I have taken pigs many years ago on a dairy farm across from prado. There is a good population that travels the river from prado east. Ask the guys at rauhagees how many pigs have been taken there. You won't get a straight answer but you'll know the truth. I have hunted and taken socal pigs. They are present in small numbers at san Jacinto also. I regularly read biologists reports from areas of interest since they are public information. The pendelton pigs are verified in a biologist report. Pendleton also has bison. The hardest part is access in these areas but its possible.

 

[ltdann]

The Pendleton conservation office is down the street from my office. If one of the wardens see's a hog on our side of the fence, it's shoot to kill. It's not even one of the game animals authorized for hunting on the base. As for the bison, I wish they'd let one or two of those go to hunters each year, but that'll never happen either. It's about the last genetically pure herd left in the US.

 

[cali-carnivore]

One or two go to fighter pilots each year during training. They like to hang out near the target area.

 

[thewolfman]

I say...let em run free...any place where there are pigs, it seems the lawman is there to give us hunters tickets for trespassing...i know exactly where they are... but Mr warden or Sheriff will come in quick to protect the swines...so i say...let em run free until they spill into the near by mtns...my 2 cents... lol

 

[Rob P.]

Apparently all of the local government agencies are trying to hash out a solution to the pig overpopulation and damage problem. I keep wondering WHY none of these lunkheads can think of allowing hunters access to areas where there are problem piggies...

There are pigs ripping up picnic areas but these braniacs won't allow hunters in there because "someone might get shot...." Exactly how hard is it to CLOSE the area from say, 5 am to 8 pm on Tuesday and Wednesday of every week to campers and picnic'ers but allow hunters in at those times ONLY? Access permits required and only give out a limited number of permits (first come first serve) each week. Tribal lands, same deal. Look at what FHL does for a model on how to operate it.

But OH NOOO, if they allowed that someone might get hurt stumbling over a tree root or something. Or the "Friends of Wild Piggies" might get upset and protest and cry about the lack of safety for the children using the picnic areas...

 

[Hikingwithguns]

Same tired old story. Pigs are out there but we aren't allowed to hunt them. I know of at least tow regional parks and mount diablo state park where you can go and see all kinds of pig destruction. Tree huggers won't let you hunt it but pay good money to have hogs "removed" by professionals lol.

Dfg needs to get a SHARE program organized to push for hunter access to "public" lands, cover liability and handle special draws etc.

 

[Bilbo1usa]

Also,
In these modern times, biologists, like climate 'scientists' will create any data they need to to support whatever agenda they are driving.
I see it done in my profession every day. I keep your lights on for a living.
Why are your power bills so high?
Because we are beholden to the reports of these same biologists. Else they sue and bring in big brother, who imposes rules and fines, which are passed on the the ratepayer (you).
The same holds true for any other biologist.
If they are trying to prove there is a pig problem, trying to preserve pig area or whatever they are trying to do, it's easy for them to report irrefutable numbers, inflated or deflated to bolster their cause.
Who is going to legitimately challenge the 'integrity' of a biologist? A hunter? We all know where the sway goes in court of public opinion in that argument...

 

[cali-carnivore]

Biologists reports are one of the best hunting tools available. They will describe in detail the preferred bedding, feeding and habits of a specie within a geographic area. There are some that are hired to advance an agenda but there are also a lot done simply to assess the wildlife in an area. They can help any hunter looking to be more successful,

 

[Bilbo1usa]

You're absolutely right.
I didn't intend to impugn the work, knowledge or credibility of all biologists. Only as you stated, some.
Without the contributions of ethical and honest biologists and scientists, management or mismanagement of many other species we hunt and fish could be disastrous.

 

[mezcan]

Since DFG is now the Dept. of Fish & Fabulous Critters don't count on any programs other than those to prevent harm to all of Kalifornia's marvelous animals . Did I just say that ? I think I'm gonna puke !

 

[thewolfman]

Funny how the place that i hunted since a kid was wide opened....than as soon as the pigs got introduced.... boy o boy....its closed and no trespassing.....huh????...and oh noooooo...we have a big pig problem.....huh???... just freaking let me on and i ll do it for free!!!...so i wonder why before the place had pigs...no lawman...now pig...lawman everywhere... seems its a scam to me..

The only reason the population of pig growing is cuz they stopping hunters from going in....and as they research and study and write stories of destruction from mr piggy....the pigs are breeding like rabbits....scam is what comes to my mind...tax money funding this project... sickening... just sickening

 

[KTKT70]

oh well. by the time its out of hand and pigs all over cali. They will try to pay us 2 bucks a tail like they do in tx. Not much of a way to get rid of pigs but atleast they are not tring to sale tags as if it was sum kind of game animal. around than they start to want tax money to control the trouble. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Just let us wack as many as we want. its not going to stop them anytime soon. no need to slow down the amount we take each year.