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Do you any pic's of these bulls that you could post here.
 

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I'm not sure I'm doing this right but hopefully the picture will come up. I'm a much better hunter than computer guy. This is the bull we took last week on the Klamath hunt. It was the second biggest bull we had in gun range and one of nine bulls we saw on the hunt. It grosses 317 according to my clients taxidermist who scored it. It should easily make the B&C minimum of 290 after the drying period and deductions.
 

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you should know that the Klamata had increased in the take from about a 15% sucess takle in 2000 and has been running in the 70% take for the past four years. How anyone could complain about this hunt is beyound me, he at least got a tag.

i also know that ebolavis was the violater that used a dog to bring the herd to him in, thenm he has the nerve to complain about the hunt. what was wrong his dog didn't bring the heard close enough for him to get a shot at the heard bull,(not much of a dog) or that he didn't take the time to "hunt" and shot the first thing that presented(by dog) it self to hem. Not much of a hunter in my book. there was one young girl that passed up several spike and smaller branched bulls because she sad that she came to hunt. She unded up with a 6x7 bull that will easily make B$&C id the 30+class. sounds lide ebolavirs is just a winner and will never be happy

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (plf @ Sep 19 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
you should know that the Klamata had increased in the take from about a 15% sucess takle in 2000 and has been running in the 70% take for the past four years. How anyone could complain about this hunt is beyound me, he at least got a tag.

i also know that ebolavis was the violater that used a dog to bring the herd to him in, thenm he has the nerve to complain about the hunt. what was wrong his dog didn't bring the heard close enough for him to get a shot at the heard bull,(not much of a dog) or that he didn't take the time to "hunt" and shot the first thing that presented(by dog) it self to hem. Not much of a hunter in my book. there was one young girl that passed up several spike and smaller branched bulls because she sad that she came to hunt. She unded up with a 6x7 bull that will easily make B$&C id the 30+class. sounds lide ebolavirs is just a winner and will never be happy

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You are an idiot and a liar. You have no idea what you are talking about. You should do your research before lobbing around accusations. I hunted a completely different area than where the big bull was killed opening morning, and was nowhere around when it was killed. I saw that bull during scouting tuesday evening and never saw it again until it was in the cooler. I killed my bull at around 1100 and it did not "present itself to me", it was four hundred yards away and was not in a "heard". The bull I shot was spooked out by other hunters who were not using a dog that I saw. Game warden was right up the road when I shot my bull so if I had done something illegal I would have been cited. I have a yellow lab who is half deaf and blind and will only chase the cat away when it gets near her food bowl. She does not hunt and was not with me on the elk hunt. I shot the second and the biggest bull I saw and perhaps as evidenced by others (cary's client) success I should have held off. My hunting skills are open for debate as I am not about to say I am or was the best hunter in the world. Thanks for calling me a winner though! Go spew your lies elsewhere.
 

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[attachment=45070:DSCI0015crop.jpg]<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Caryoutdoors @ Sep 19 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I'm not sure I'm doing this right but hopefully the picture will come up. I'm a much better hunter than computer guy. This is the bull we took last week on the Klamath hunt. It was the second biggest bull we had in gun range and one of nine bulls we saw on the hunt. It grosses 317 according to my clients taxidermist who scored it. It should easily make the B&C minimum of 290 after the drying period and deductions.[/b]


My name is Trissha Juvenal,
I was lucky enough to draw the klamtha bull elk tag this year, yeah! I do believe that the hunt regs do discribe the hunt properly, but just like hunting anywere, it is a chalange if you do not know the area. I made a decision to stay as long as it took or until the hunt season was over, and it was worth my while. I shot my bull, a 6x7 b&c the day before the last day and a friend of mine took his 7x7 b&c on the last day. I would defenately put in for this hunt again and hope to draw it again in my lifetime. It was defenataly tuff hunting, but well worth it in the end. My husband, father, and I had a great time and met some really great people. As for Green Diamond, they bend over backwards to help the people that are lucky enough to draw tags, they do so much that they do not have to do, what an incredable company.

I am not sure how someone that only hunted 1/2 a day into the season and shot the 1st bull they saw can have the opinions they have. I did speak to Cary alomst daily, you can't ask for a nicer or more honest person to share the woods with. I am glad to have had the pleasure of meeting him.

I want to send out a big THANK YOU to everyone at Green Diamond for giving me the chance to hunt on their property and for a place to camp at there old mill site in klamath and for the use of their walk in cooler and for just being great!

Trissha
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Great job Trissha!! That is a very nice Bull, sounds like you earned it by putting in the work you did. Nice to see someone give a positive story on a hunt of a lifetime.
 

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Congratulations Trisha. I'm glad you and Dean stuck it out and got great elk. That's a typical Klamath elk hunt. Most days you won't see an animal but if you stick it out and you do see one, it's liable to make the record book.

Last year the lady I was guiding took a nice 6x6 in the first five minutes on the opener and then we had two whopper bulls walk by while we were taking care of the one she shot. Her husband was not hunting with us as we had split up to cover more ground. He and I did not see an animal for 5 days after that. Then on the seventh day we got a 7x5.

It's hard to keep a positive attitude through all that sometimes but if you can, you're way ahead of the game. You and Dean kept after it (even though your feet were killing you from all the hiking) and got what you deserved. Congratulations again and tell your dad and husband I said hi.
 

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Congrats to all of those lucky enough to draw and still luckier (plus skill of course) to have been successful.
Carry thanks for jumping in and presenting your side as well...by the way, how is Nevada shaping up for bucks
for you this year? I'll be calling you during the off-season....MarvB. (Redding)
 

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Extremely informative post, it will save my points for a different zone. Thanks for being detailed.
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Hello,
My name is Gary Haga Sr, Iv'e been hunting sience I was 10,hunting bigger game sience I was 12,
and have only been Elk hunting for 8 years,and have hired guides for all 8,my 1st hunt was in Chama,New Mexico.The 2nd was in Oregon,the 3rd -6th were in Montana,where I will return to in November. The 7th & 8th were here in CA. With the first hunt beeing a rip off, learning a valuable
lesson,I now do my homework before hiring a guide.
In 2006 my daughter drew a cow tag for the Klamath hunt,Her first Elk hunt. This hunt was less than 3 hours away.But it was in an area where we had never been,The Bald Hills area.Where all the hunt zones were surounded by National Park, with limitd map reading skill, I decide we should hire a guide. After talking with friends and other hunters who had sugested a local guy,out of Eureka. I
contacted him a decided to hire him. My daughter shot her cow the 1st moring,30 minutes into the
hunt.She was the 2nd person to shoot,Cary Jellisons client was the 1st,she shot a nice 6x6 bull.
While we where waiting for our guide to get the 4-wheeler to haul our cow out,I walked over to talk to Cary and admire his clients bull,after quite a long conversation with Cary,I decided I liked him,
and if I ever drew the Klamath tag he would be the guide for me.
The following year,I filled out all of our applications for the 4 of us(myself,my wife & 2 kids) I've
done this for the lasy 11 years,and it's my wife who draws a Klamath Bull tag. I got on the phone searching for Cary's phone number,after a little effort I had managed to track it down,gave him
a call,and he was open for our hunt,so I hired him for my wife.
Cary, took us to area's wher the other hunter had not been,his excellent knowldge of the hunting zones,comes from the 8 previous seasons, in which Cary's clients have taken 7 B&C Bulls out of the 8yrs.We seen Elk everyday,mostly Bulls.Cary is awesome at calling in the Elk,and when the elk didn't come,the people would,thinking it was a huge bull.
Ebolavirs say,"If you've hired a guide for this hunt you were wasting your money" I think not...
Cary is worth his pickup trucks weight in GOLD!!!! He is a go by the book kind of guide when it comes to the rules and laws of this hunt. When I draw this tag,I hope to have the honor of hiring
Cary,my fear is he will already be booked..As far as the quality of the hunt,it is not a road hunt..
be prepared to do a lot of hiking,we hiked over 5 to 10 miles daily threw rough to moderate
terrain.This place has awesome Elk habitat,sign of Elk everywhere we hiked,over 10 different wallow spots.It doesn't get any better than this,so maybe Ebolavis you should have spent a lot more
time hunting and hiking,and a little less time whining and complaining,and you could of bagged a B&C Bull too!!!!!
Now to adress some miss informed ill opinions of our guide,my wife and myself, It is 11a.m. the 5th day of our hunt,while we sat at the edge of the timber looking down over a cutting block, Cary
had called a Bull in to within to 30yrds away for us in the timber,my wife is the only one to see him.
(keeping in mind this was her 1st Elk hunting adventure)she dosen't have a clear shot,due to the fact all she can see,is the stomach and the hnd quarters.Even with Cary cow calling and bugeling
the Bull would not look our way or move.Cary tells me to start rustling my feet,and hit on a tree with a stick,inmatating a huge bull wanting to fight for his herd,while Cary was bugeling,and after a 45 minute stand off,all of this together works,and out he steps from behind the trees and shrubs,
presenting a shot. My wife shot once hitting the bull,I saw a big dust cloud fly off his back, not understanding what this ment until later,after finding where he had bedded down. He bolted down the hill about 50 yrds and sounded like he dropped. We waited for about 20 minutes,and started down the hill,jumping him,she had a split second chance to shot again and couldn't get off another shot.We found a little blood and started trailing,and tracking,ahalf mile or more between drops,with such little blood loss,we had to start tracking from there.What an amazing tracker Cary proved to be.We tracked him to a spot where he had bedded down in the shade,It was in the high 80's to the
low 90's,.After studing his bed ,my wife spotted a few drops of blood high up one the top edge.
We kept tracking,after another mile or so, we spoted a drop of blood on a rock in the road,it was no bigger than a pencil eraser.Now it is started getting dark,we decided to spread out onthe way back threw the cutting block on the hike out,hoping to jump him out of hidding,with no such luck..My wife who said she would go to the ends of this earth to find him,was tore up at the reallity of having to leave with out finding him.On the way back to the motel,we decided we would start looking for him where we left off,first thing in the morning. Back at the motel my wife couldn't stop milling over the events of that morning, trying to figure out how or why she had shot to high,I tried to keep her spirits up,but that didn't work,she couldn't stomach eating her dinner,nor did she get much sleep that night,sitting up waiting for Cary to return and take us back to search for her Bull. We headed
back to the spot where we left off and started tracking again,we had tracked him to another bed,less
than 200yrds away from where we split up the night before,he had hid from us..after studing this bed,we had found another drop of blood,once again it was at the top edge,and after 15 hours of
trailing and tracking,my wife's heart sank,as we tracked him up to the National Park border,Knowing
that there was noting more we colud legally,ethinically,or morally do.What a loss, it was a loss we all felt,not just my wife.Heart broken for the 3rd time in less than 24 hours,she was ready to pack up her gun and go home..Cary said to sleep on it,and let him know what we decide, the next morning.After a long talk with my wife,I had decided to make a few phone calls, talking to a few well
seasoned and very highly respected hunters,telling them our story,they had come to the same conclusion,with the drops of blood, being on the top edge of the beds,and the lack of it meant one thing(she shot to high piercing the meat above his back bone,only wounding him,and not crippling him,they also said," Those Bulls get wounded a lot worse from fighting with other Bulls!!! After
hours of pondering our choices,a decision had to be made,and she decided to carry on with her
hunt of a lifetime,which took her 11 years to draw for,even though I think our guide ,Cary felt different. On the 7th evening of her hunt,my wife got another chance,20 minutes before shooting
time ended. Cary,and I, had spotted a herd of 40 cows and a spike,and Ican get us to where there
going.We jumped in the truck,my wife was so excited at having another chance,she told Cary,I came
to fill my tag,and would be proud to take a spike.Threw 3 locked gates and with just 10 minutes left of shooting time left,we were within 300 yards of 40 to 45 cows and a HUGE 6x6 HERD BULL...I
attached my bi pod to her 300 Win.Mag.,sat her down,she pulled up on him,and shot,shooting over
his back,making dirt fly.Cary said we need to get closer,Cary and my wife closed the distance in half
sitting down less than 150 yards away.The bi pod legs were now to high for this shot,after adjusting
the legs as short as they would go,told her to lay on her stomach,steady the gun and shoot. After a few deep breaths to calm her self,from the Bull Fever she got from watching,and hearing him bugle.
this was also a first for her,she shot,and she stopped him right in his tracks.(falaying his heart)....
That was one of my proudest moments,no ill coments or fowl words can ever spoil this memory,
so don't even try!!!!!!
It was a honor to be allowed to hunt the Klamath units.. A BIG THANK YOU ,for everthing,to the
Green Diamond Resource people,D.F.G.,Jeff Dayton,and to anyone envolved in making this hunt
avaible to us(the hunting population),also I want to thank all of the nice and very supportive friends
we made during this adventure(Jeff & his side kick,Glen and Paula,Dale,Dean,Trisha,her husband
her father and her father-in-law,and so many others I can't remember all your names.
AWESOME HUNT,PROVES TO BE TOP NOTCH............
VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THE KLAMTH HUNT...
GARY.R.HAGA SR.

P.S.S.
CONGRADULATIONS TO DEAN AND TRISH..AWESOME BULLS
 

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Good followup article and I see no foul. If we hunt long enough we ALL will make a bad shot and sometimes we can never recover the animal. You did all you could and that bull is most likely licking his wounds.
As a taxidermist I see alot of animals with old wounds from both bullets and broadheads, they are very resilient.

Cary
I saw your article in Western Hunter. Congratulations on drawing a sheep tag and scoring on a big one. Has to feel good to scout and hunt for yourself.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ebolavirs @ Sep 7 2007, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I talked with an analyst from F+G who was very helpful, and his information was good. I was provided with the historical kill maps for this zone by the analyst which do who you exactly where all the elk are killed, and that is the in small area I mention.
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Hmmm... I guess I'm about the only "positive" when it comes to this hunt - the helpful analyst... I feel I did a pretty thorough job informing Ebola about the hunt, based on my limited knowledge... "you can't scout it ahead of time, can't camp within the property boundaries, it's steep, and extremely brushy..." I even voiced my theories as to why most elk seemed to be killed in the Schoolhouse Peak area - there are some large grassy openings, it's adjacent to the Park, etc. And it is true - there are only a few areas where the majority of the elk have been killed in the past. I personally don't know if that is because the elk are only in that area or??? I have a theory - I think there might be elk all over the hunt boundary, but because you have to check in and out each day - and only have access through certain gates - I'm guessing most hunters never make it to the far reaches of the hunt zone. They find their elk soon after entering the property, and never venture any further. But that's just a theory. I've never been on the hunt and never been on the property. I only have the historical harvest data to go by...

But let's just say that I've never heard anything but positive comments about this hunt, DFG's involvement, and Green Diamond Resources Company. And in my opinion, the track record of B&C bulls speaks for itself. I only wish that there were more companies like Green Diamond that were willing to bend over backwards for the average Joe... Thanks a bunch Green Diamond!

Ken
 
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