DFGELK

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There are a few things that happen with kill locations, first it is in a large way a self perpetuating system. Some one kills an animal in spot X, he tells some one where he killed the animal then that guy hunts in spot x and kills an animal. Then he tells some one and so on. So you have more people hunting in spot X compared to the rest of the areas, just by probability alone you will have more harvest in the spot with more people hunting (as long as their continues to be animals available to harvest). Now the second thing I see happen on harvest reports is that many people truly do not know where they are or they are in an area with no real good name. This is why we see lakes, rock outcroppings, and meadows (etc) show up on harvest reports time and time again. Many of the kills actually happened fairly far away but the hunter puts down bald rock because he knows where that is or may have started off in that area (that type of thing). At best I see 2.5 miles west of bald rock, most times if there is any additional info it is 2.5 miles from bald rock (which way?, and some times there is more than one bald rock or dry creek, deer creek, etc).
Elk are not always visible especially in heavy timber/canopy areas. So they are commonly spotted in a clear cut or opening. Then we hear, "hey all the elk are in meadow X". Yes, all the elk (you saw) were in meadow X, but most times there are other groups of elk around. Now I will be the first to admit it is dang hard to count elk on the west side of I-5 up north, but the areas we can count from the air (plus telemetry equipment, gps collars, etc) there are more elk around than most people see, this goes double for deer. Elk for the most part tend to group up and not be distributed evenly, this is both good and bad for counts and for hunting. But there are lone animals around (mostly bulls or small groups of bachelor bulls).

Just my thougts on the harvest reports.

Joe
 

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Gary and LaDonna,

Cary is now in Nevada scouting for deer. He didn't get a chance to read your post before he left, so I read it to him today when he checked in. He asked me to write back and tell you what a pleasure it was to hunt with you. He really enjoyed it.

Nancy Jellison
 

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I'm a little late to this party but CONGRATS! I haven't been putting in for Elk hunts in California ever since I got drawn for a grizzly island spike when I was a junior but I loved every second of that! This hunt has peaked my interest and I think I'll start putting in points for here on out for it. Sounds like a challenging hunt and I'm all for that!
 

Gary Haga Sr.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (deedaw777 @ Sep 20 2007, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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I'm not sure I'm doing this right but hopefully the picture will come up. I'm a much better hunter than computer guy. This is the bull we took last week on the Klamath hunt. It was the second biggest bull we had in gun range and one of nine bulls we saw on the hunt. It grosses 317 according to my clients taxidermist who scored it. It should easily make the B&C minimum of 290 after the drying period and deductions.[/b]


My name is Trissha Juvenal,
I was lucky enough to draw the klamtha bull elk tag this year, yeah! I do believe that the hunt regs do discribe the hunt properly, but just like hunting anywere, it is a chalange if you do not know the area. I made a decision to stay as long as it took or until the hunt season was over, and it was worth my while. I shot my bull, a 6x7 b&c the day before the last day and a friend of mine took his 7x7 b&c on the last day. I would defenately put in for this hunt again and hope to draw it again in my lifetime. It was defenataly tuff hunting, but well worth it in the end. My husband, father, and I had a great time and met some really great people. As for Green Diamond, they bend over backwards to help the people that are lucky enough to draw tags, they do so much that they do not have to do, what an incredable company.

I am not sure how someone that only hunted 1/2 a day into the season and shot the 1st bull they saw can have the opinions they have. I did speak to Cary alomst daily, you can't ask for a nicer or more honest person to share the woods with. I am glad to have had the pleasure of meeting him.

I want to send out a big THANK YOU to everyone at Green Diamond for giving me the chance to hunt on their property and for a place to camp at there old mill site in klamath and for the use of their walk in cooler and for just being great!

Trissha
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Trissha,
Do you have or can you get a picture of Deans Bull, if so would you please post it here.
Congrat's on your Bull.
Gary & LaDonna Haga Sr.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gary Haga Sr. @ Oct 6 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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[attachment=45070:DSCI0015crop.jpg]<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Caryoutdoors @ Sep 19 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure I'm doing this right but hopefully the picture will come up. I'm a much better hunter than computer guy. This is the bull we took last week on the Klamath hunt. It was the second biggest bull we had in gun range and one of nine bulls we saw on the hunt. It grosses 317 according to my clients taxidermist who scored it. It should easily make the B&C minimum of 290 after the drying period and deductions.[/b]


My name is Trissha Juvenal,
I was lucky enough to draw the klamtha bull elk tag this year, yeah! I do believe that the hunt regs do discribe the hunt properly, but just like hunting anywere, it is a chalange if you do not know the area. I made a decision to stay as long as it took or until the hunt season was over, and it was worth my while. I shot my bull, a 6x7 b&c the day before the last day and a friend of mine took his 7x7 b&c on the last day. I would defenately put in for this hunt again and hope to draw it again in my lifetime. It was defenataly tuff hunting, but well worth it in the end. My husband, father, and I had a great time and met some really great people. As for Green Diamond, they bend over backwards to help the people that are lucky enough to draw tags, they do so much that they do not have to do, what an incredable company.

I am not sure how someone that only hunted 1/2 a day into the season and shot the 1st bull they saw can have the opinions they have. I did speak to Cary alomst daily, you can't ask for a nicer or more honest person to share the woods with. I am glad to have had the pleasure of meeting him.

I want to send out a big THANK YOU to everyone at Green Diamond for giving me the chance to hunt on their property and for a place to camp at there old mill site in klamath and for the use of their walk in cooler and for just being great!

Trissha
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Trissha,
Do you have or can you get a picture of Deans Bull, if so would you please post it here.
Congrat's on your Bull.
Gary & LaDonna Haga Sr.
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Gary & LaDonna,
The only picture I have of Dean's bull is not very good. I talked to Dean last week and he said he is going to post one on this site, so be looking for it soon. I will be talking to him again this week so I will about getting a picture on here soon, it's a great 7x7.
Trissha
 
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