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Has anyone ever been to the Big Horn Canyon Ranch for pigs and if so what did you think of it.
Hey cmmorales, I am really sorry that your thread was hijacked after about the fourth post. Here's what I know about the ranch. I've never hunted there, but my cousin and his family has. They go once a year and bring their elderly grandpa to hunt. My cousin says the animals are very tame and not much of a challege. From what I hear, if you own a bow, bring it. The first time he ever went there he brought a rifle. My cousin said he would never do it again for the mere fact that you can almost walk right up to the prey. The bottom line is, the place is very easy. If you're looking for a challege, this is not the place. If you do want a challege, I would suggest paying a fee to hunt private property or hiring a licensed guide. Atleast with the guide, you're chances for success increase. Also, you'll probably learn a boatful of useful information from a professional hunter. Whatever it is you do decide on, I hope you have a good time doing it.
P.S. For the rest of you guys that jacked this guys thread, one of you should start a new thread entitle pros and cons of fenced hunting. I would love to comment in an appropriate time and fassion.
 

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i should take my stepdad there. he is getting up in age, and can barely see thru a rifle scope. he can still shoot a shotgun very well. maybe a slug gun with open sights..nice to get his blood boiling again.

i wouldnt hunt there for myself. i dont mind getting skunked..used to it by now.
 

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If you have ever seen the areas where people hunt in southern Mississippi/Alabama/louisiana you would know why tree stands are used. No way u could stock a deer there....thats why I didnt hunt during the short time i lived there.

Exactly my point, I don't understand it, but I don't bash the other guys method. There's probably a reason that guy hunts that way.

I have no problem with high fence operations, as long as you know what your getting into and you don't expect "the real thing".

Someone pointed out, "this isn't hunting". Thats right. These ARE farm animals and not subject Fish and GAME regulations. So why the argument?

If someone wants to spend their money to go there, more power to 'em, its none of my business.

We all have honey holes, where we know that if we go there we'll come back with a deer. How is that different than this?
 

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This is funny because I have seen domestic hogs slaughtered on a ranch before. Once their brothers have been put down and their remains placed on the ground you have to fight the pigs off more than the dogs. I think you are putting to much of a human emotion on animals that simply could care less. If pigs as a species cared about life then they would not eat each others piglets, parts or anything associated with harming another animal. Just my 2 cents.
 

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:confused: Good Lord:confused:

I am glad some of you at least answered the poor guys question regarding the ranch.

The rest of you should go hunting and stop writing novels on a Hunting forum.:lol bashing sign: I would go to Tejon for Pigs and I will be there next week!
 

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Hey guys, I am an author. Here's a quick peek at my next novel:

Of Pigs & Men

by Common Sense


The story will center on two pig hunters, one is very old and feeble and the other young strong and macho. (any resemblence to Sancho's FIL & Zoemasterf is purely coincidental).

Anyways one of them goes hunting on a private ranch, you know, pay for play. Er, well I guess they both went to a private ranch. One went to Big Horn Canyon Ranch and the other went to Tejon Ranch. They both had to pay for the opportunity to enter. One worked his butt off trying to get in range of some animals, and wound up wasting half his time waiting on a tow truck after getting his vehicle stuck in mud. The other feller found the pigs real easy and found the bright red ear tags helpful because it was hard for him to aim with his old eyes.

The young man made fun of the older gentleman for shooting "tame" animals. The old man's feelings were hurt; but he enjoyed his time on the small fenced in ranch as much as the young guy enjoyed his trip to the big fenced in ranch.

The question is, which guy is the smart one(you know the George of Mice & Men) and which one is Lenny?





To me, if they both left their ranches happy; they are both smart. Course if they both left happy, why does one have to make fun of the other?





My next novel will be about an unscrupulous quail hunter who ground sluices birds using lead shot near a public road.
 

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If they ain't desensitized, they will be vegetarians. Which of course, is okay. I actually respect vegetarians; but I don't plan on joining their ranks.

If god had not meant man to eat animals then why did he make them out of meat?
He He:stir pot:
 

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Animal suffering???? It is a fact of life that come deer open season................a number of deer will be inadvertently gutshot and escape to linger a slow, agonizing, extremely painful death that sometimes last until the next day. I will hazard a guess here that an inadvertently gutshot "domestic" pig at Big Horn Canyon will not escape termination by a 2nd or 3rd bullet and IT WILL BE RECOVERED. I doubt a gutshot "domestic pig" at Big Horn Canyon will be able to stay hidden somewhere in that small high fence operation. I am hazarding a guess that gutshot pigs at Big Horn Canyon are tracked down and dispatched within a short period of time, avoiding a lingering painful agonizing death that deer or hogs gutshot in the wild suffer. I am sure no hog, boar or pig appreciates being whacked, clubbed, knifed, arrowed or shot whether high fence or low fence or no fence........but like I say......my mind goes blank on hog emotions once I smell that marinated hog backstrap grilling on that real charcoal barbecue pit. At that point the flavor is so overwhelming that I get emotional thinking of the next time I can pull the trigger on another terror stricken pig for the next barbecue. I tell you, terror stricken pig or not.......I just love to pull the trigger and keep tossing them in the barbecue. In my limited experience....a bullet is the best therapy for a terror stricken pig.
'Nuff said
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Hey guys, I am an author. Here's a quick peek at my next novel:

Of Pigs & Men

by Common Sense

The young man made fun of the older gentleman for shooting "tame" animals. The old man's feelings were hurt; but he enjoyed his time on the small fenced in ranch as much as the young guy enjoyed his trip to the big fenced in ranch.


Is Tejon high fenced? I though it was fair chase....
 

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Hey guys, I am an author. Here's a quick peek at my next novel:

Of Pigs & Men

by Common Sense

The young man made fun of the older gentleman for shooting "tame" animals. The old man's feelings were hurt; but he enjoyed his time on the small fenced in ranch as much as the young guy enjoyed his trip to the big fenced in ranch.


Is Tejon high fenced? I though it was fair chase....

I've hunted there and you know, I'm not sure if its high fence or not. Its 200,000 acres inside the fence, I'd call that fair chase.
 

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i know parts of tejon are fenced...some people i know have shot pigs just outside and had a discussion with someone from the ranch saying that those were property of tejon ranch....but nothing ever came of it...and i have heard the ranches around tehachapi are having pig problems from them also....but all hearsay
 

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Hey guys, I am an author. Here's a quick peek at my next novel:

Of Pigs & Men

by Common Sense

The young man made fun of the older gentleman for shooting "tame" animals. The old man's feelings were hurt; but he enjoyed his time on the small fenced in ranch as much as the young guy enjoyed his trip to the big fenced in ranch.


Is Tejon high fenced? I though it was fair chase....






Don't know how high the fence is, but I know at least part of Tejon was fenced. I assume most every ranch that runs cattle is fenced. I would think feral pigs taken at Tejon would be considered fair chase. But if I remember right they use to have elk hunts there and Boone & Crockett didn't accept them into the books because it wasn't fair chase.
 

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I took my kids to the Alpine trout pond in Big Bear and the damn fish were hitting on marsh mellows. Not much of a challenge for me but to see there faces when they caught a fish is priceless. If Big Horn can get new hunters in to our sport well more power to them. We don't need to be turning away new hunters we need to make new hunters.
 

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dirtpoor,
...I do have strong opinions about killing for the sheer pleasure of it, the ability to reason and show compassion is what seperates us from the animal's and letting the kids shoot "tweety " birds with their bb guns simply teaches children that living breating animals are just moving targets...I guess I don't understand how someone could be so callous as to not care what an animal goes thru when being killed irrespective of whether it's a pig or any other animal.
I agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly. However, I fail to see how this has anything to do with a person going to a place such as Big Horn Canyon Ranch. There is nothing inherent about these kinds of operations that promotes the attitude you are justifiably concerned with.

this has been a good exchange, glad to see it stayed civil I wasn't expecting that.
Uh oh...do I have a reputation that I don't know about?
 

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letting the kids shoot "tweety " birds with their bb guns simply teaches children that living breating animals are just moving targets



I agree with you, because I think birds are just moving targets.


However, if I give Tejon Ranch $20,000 they will let my grandson shoot a Rocky Mountain Elk. If I were to give them $20,000 to kill an elk, what does that teach children? And how is it different than paying to shoot a pig at Bir Horn Canyon?
 

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Folks if you have seen a terror stricken hog(in Texas) caught inside a live trap cage and pulled tight to the side with a leg wire noose and then knifed to death while the hog is screaming and oinking for dear life.............................you will either have a bleeding "compassionate" heart or like me appreciate that THIS IS A HOG'S LIFE AND THE BARBEQUE IS THE END OF IT.
'Nuff said
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