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3 of us got ticketed this way. we each paid $500 and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor. while in kings county court, we notice three other guys came in for the same reason. imagine a few hundred of these a year, for the last 15 years. how much $$$ do you think Kings County has collected with this crooked operation? $500 per ticket, 100 cases per year, for 15 yrs = $750k in Kings County pocket. Someone needs to teach mr kester a lesson.
 

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Sure it sucks for the honest hunters(and I use that term losely) like you guys. But as a whole, the people that frequent this area are far from legit. Those bordering ranches have been poached, trashed, fences cut, and trespassed on by unlicensed hunters, pot growers, and druggies. Sure, Kester has gotten a little out of hand, but I think most of you are not looking at the big picture.
 

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in my book, kester and larry hamilton is on the same page.
 

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Where is curry mountain?

Up in message #11 of this thread I posted a link to the Blacktail Section. It has a list of my Google Earth boundaries including Curry Mountain. I will attach all of them to an email reply. Curry Mountain has a nice parking area across the road.

I forgot to mention that my Google Earth KML files can be converted ot GPX files and loaded into your GPS. That way you will always know your position in relation to the BLM Boundary.
 

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I have been hearing about stockdale mtn for a while now. When I lived in SLO county people were always saying Stockdale is BLM, then someone would say that it was now private.

Anybody have some ideas how to resolve this issue. Some sort of thorn in the side of kester. Maybe a JHO grassroots to bombard BLM and local authorities with complaints. How about a organized hunt a few hundred strong, you know the kind where everybody has a video camera.

I dont plan on hunting the place anytime soon, but this kester guy has either forgotten, or does not care, for the reasons of are founding fathers kicking the bloody red coats into the sea. I would really like to see this " nester kester" knocked down a peg.

Amen brother:JHO rocks:
 

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You know, if I didn't want someone hunting my favorite public spot, I'd make all kinds of noise about how scary the place could be, and about how the law and landowners will harass you...

I'm just saying...
:stir pot:

I know what you are saying spec but in this case it is true i have first hand knowlage, I have a story simlar to the one that map posted.

Now with that said in the past i have stoped and talked to many a land owner in Parkfield and with some of the stories i heard from them and some of the things they have shown me i can under stand where stand on this issue.
 

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O and one other thing i have been shot at twice, while on BLM land in parkfield, shots comming from privet land. One time the guy unloaded what sounded like a .22 at my feet as i was running from him to find cover, took cover behind a large manzanita and he contued to fire through the manzanita. I dont know what size clip he had but it must have been 15 to 20 shots fired my way.
 

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Sure it sucks for the honest hunters(and I use that term losely) like you guys. But as a whole, the people that frequent this area are far from legit. Those bordering ranches have been poached, trashed, fences cut, and trespassed on by unlicensed hunters, pot growers, and druggies. Sure, Kester has gotten a little out of hand, but I think most of you are not looking at the big picture.

This is the same type of argument the anti second amendment people use. Sure it sucks for the honest gun owners, etc.

Barrel74, I hear your message. I lived on a cattle ranch that was bordered by public land, so I understand some of the problems land owners face. But, a land owner is not forced to own that land. Kester made the decision to purchase land bordered by BLM, he should have realized that his property would be tresspassed. Now I am not defending tresspassing, but I acknowledge tresspassing is probably as old as private land. Kester knew this to when he purchased the property. If someone is caught Tresspassing his land, by all means they should be prosecuted. But for him to use these weasel tactics to keep everyone out is wrong.
 

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By no way am I trying to defend Kester, just making sure everyone sees the whole picture.
"he should have realized that his property would be trespassed"
So, are you saying that if someone buys land next to public land, it's just a given that he's going to be trespassed on, and he just has to deal with it? Well that's not really right either, is it?
 

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Of course I am not saying it is right. But yes, I do think, unfortunately, that it is a given that private land bordered by public will be tresspassed. Especially, if by tresspassing, something will be gained. One thing I learned when I took criminal justice, and from being around LEO's, is that a criminal is lazy. The criminal will take the easiest way of approach.
I can back this up with the fact that out of living six years on a cattle ranch I only encountered one tresspasser. Even though the ranch was bordered on the south by public land, that land was very far from any public access. The ranch to the north that was bordered by HWY 58 was regularly tresspassed.

I hate to be a cynic, but observation has made me one.
 

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Sure it sucks for the honest hunters(and I use that term losely) like you guys. But as a whole, the people that frequent this area are far from legit. Those bordering ranches have been poached, trashed, fences cut, and trespassed on by unlicensed hunters, pot growers, and druggies. Sure, Kester has gotten a little out of hand, but I think most of you are not looking at the big picture.


barel74,

I would have to agree with you also. I don't know Kester, but I spent many years hunting a small ranch in Parkfield and his name was well known in the Parkfield Cafe. He might be a prick and well known for callin the sheriff when someone steps foot on his land, but landowners don't have it so good when it comes to trespassers. I would see first hand what a lot of trespassers would do to someones property. Broken locks, broken gates, private property signs shot/taken down. The landowner had 2 properties. He and his wife lived at one and they had another that was left unattended most of the time, but gated and fenced. The property they lived on always had traffic (since the landowners lived at the property and ran cattle). The other property was left unattented most of the time and people started to pick-up on that. Thats the property that had all of the problems, since the owners were older and could not check on it often. The property held decent amount of hogs and people knew that too.

The outfitter I hunted with this past weekend deals with the same problems. Between the poachers, trespassers and dope growers, he has his hands full.
 
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3 of us got ticketed this way. we each paid $500 and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor. while in kings county court, we notice three other guys came in for the same reason. imagine a few hundred of these a year, for the last 15 years. how much $$$ do you think Kings County has collected with this crooked operation? $500 per ticket, 100 cases per year, for 15 yrs = $750k in Kings County pocket. Someone needs to teach mr kester a lesson.


Sir, I may be wrong(have been many times), but I think you were confused about where you were. I reckon Kings County is just as corrupt as any other county, but I think they are innocent here(if not I tip my hat to them!).

Stockdale Mountain and Parkfield are in Monterey County, not Kings County. Is it possible you went to the Monterey County Court in King City?
 

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stand corrected. monterey county court house in kings city, next to the Northern 101/Jolon exit.
 

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Pops, I'm just messin' with some of the veteran JHOers out there.

We have this conversation about Stockdale every year, at least a couple of times, and I have no doubt the stories are true.
 

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Pops, I'm just messin' with some of the veteran JHOers out there.

We have this conversation about Stockdale every year, at least a couple of times, and I have no doubt the stories are true.

Aint that the truth..It seems like year after year Stockdale Mtn resurfaces
 

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Just wondering do they make a gps that can tell you blm from private land.
 

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Just wondering do they make a gps that can tell you blm from private land.

Yes, I can send you a GPX file of the BLM Boundary, but you must have computer software to load my GPX file into your GPS. My boundary will show up on your GPS Screen as a saved track.

Down in the GPS Section of Jesse's Forum we have a thread where we downloaded my boundary of the Clear Creek BLM into a Garmin Vista. A screen save from the Vista is posted in that thread. Belchfire can help you with uploading the Boundary File into your GPS.

Here is a link to the Garmin Vista screen with my BLM Boundary loaded. It can be zoomed-in while hunting close to the boundary or road.

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums...sc-pics-picture369-clear-creek-blm-detail.jpg
 
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Aint that the truth..It seems like year after year Stockdale Mtn resurfaces

I apologize guys. I didn't think this mountain was talked about year after year. But isn't it also good just to refresh everyone's bad memory about the area? LOL.
Anyhow, my buddy called me last night and told me he had to leave town on a business trip so my trip down there is canceled.
 

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Man I was really wanting to go hunt this area but after reading this thread it dont seem worth the hassel. If there was enough money or cattle ranchers pushing the BLM office to properly fence and post this whole area for hunters like us and cattle ranchers to lease it dont you think they would???
 
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