By JIM MATTHEWS - SD pig problem (you guys gotta read this)

[Marty]

BREAKING NEWS:
USFS to release feral hogs into the forest to aid in the tracking of existing groups of hogs.

:hog chewing::hog chewing::hog chewing::hog chewing::hog chewing::hog chewing::shootin-rifle:




:rotflmao:

:thread jacked:

 

[BADBuckfever]

I just sent an email to Jim Matthews to hear what he had to say about this.

 

[spectr17]

anic: Run for the hills, it's an atomic pig bomb anic:

 

[WildlifeBranch]

Can you speak to the attitude of those who work at the Cuyamaca Rancho State Park and possibly why they have been ignoring contacts from the hunting public? Ostracizing people as a public servant because you oppose their beliefs is discriminatory and leads me to believe this state park is not interested in serving the general public, but only those who they relate to on a ideological basis. That is wrong! Hunters deserve the same public service as any other citizens in California. If you wont address this question can you suggest SOMEONE in that agency that would be able to speak directly to hunters?

You might lookup their natural resources section in Sacramento http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=21505

 

[WildlifeBranch]

Your kidding! That's just crazy talk!

I read in the papers all the time about how something is non-native and therefore, undesirable. Who decides that? Is it someone in DFG? or USFWS? Or maybe its just an accepted policy? This is fascinating.

I don't believe we have a definition of "nonnative" in code or in regulation. My sense is that it generally accepted to rely on science/scientists/taxonomists to make the call, but there is no formal process that I know of. It is interesting

 

[Navy SWO]

As DFG consults with the FS over the way to deal with the feral pigs in San Diego, has there been any consideration for removing the requirement to have a pig tag to hunt pigs in San Diego county? I understand the pig tag revenue is resource for the overall big game management fund, but if pigs in San Diego are to be treated as invasive species rather than big game, shouldn't the requirement to have a tag to hunt them also go away?

 

[DFG_Bear]

As DFG consults with the FS over the way to deal with the feral pigs in San Diego, has there been any consideration for removing the requirement to have a pig tag to hunt pigs in San Diego county? I understand the pig tag revenue is resource for the overall big game management fund, but if pigs in San Diego are to be treated as invasive species rather than big game, shouldn't the requirement to have a tag to hunt them also go away?

Here's the skinny about pig tags. According to Fish and Game Code, wild pigs are a game mammal (Section 3950) and you must first procure a tag for each pig you intend to shoot (Sections 4652-4655). Furthermore, according to Section 1054.2, every person attempting to take a mammal in California must have a tag in their immediate possession. In order to do what you propose, the Code would need to be changed via the legislature. The Commission does not have the authority to change the Code, only Regulations.

-Marc

 

[Navy SWO]

Here's the skinny about pig tags. According to Fish and Game Code, wild pigs are a game mammal (Section 3950) and you must first procure a tag for each pig you intend to shoot (Sections 4652-4655). Furthermore, according to Section 1054.2, every person attempting to take a mammal in California must have a tag in their immediate possession. In order to do what you propose, the Code would need to be changed via the legislature. The Commission does not have the authority to change the Code, only Regulations.

-Marc

Thanks for the reply and info. I think this goes to the heart of the argument here. The Fish and Game Code classifies pigs a game mammals yet they are not being managed as such in San Diego (at least from our perspective as hunters.) Perhaps you could make books of 5 pig tags for $8.00 that are valid only in San Diego county.

 

[DFG_Bear]

Interesting idea. However, according to the same Code book, Section 4654(a) sets the base price for a resident pig tag to be $15 per tag. Section 4654(b) sets a nonresident pig tag base fee at $50 per tag. Again, this would require a change via the Legislature.

 

[BADBuckfever]

:stir pot:
Is the legislature going to be involved in giving the green light to shoot pigs without a tag in your eradication process?

 

[Navy SWO]

I guess if you force the Forest Service to procure a tag for every pig they intend to shoot the big game management fund would get a nice windfall, expecially if their shooters aren't CA residents.