257scramjet

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I just checked an i drew for the FHL Muzzeloader Bull tag! I have been checking out the muzzeloader rules and i am kind of confused.. It says open sights, no scopes but i also read somewhere about you could use red dot sight, laser rangefinders etc.. Who is knowledgeble on this subject so i can get some clear answers.. I hate using open sights but if i could use a aim point or something similar that would be good.. any help would be appreciated.. either way i'm stoked to draw this tag!
 

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Congrats on getting one of the FIRST THREE muzzleloader tags at FHL!

You can use Red dot scopes as long as it doesn't maginify or project a visible aimpoint on the animal.

Considering all the trouble it is to set up a red dot or holographic sight, I'd personally get a set of ghost ring sights for your muzzleloader. Its head and shoulders above standard iron sights and a whole lot easier to set up. Besides, no batteries to go dead in the cold.

http://www.truglosights.com/IW_Products.m4p.pvx?;PRODUCTS_NO_TREE?cat=31000?company=TGI

From the regs"
(i) Except as otherwise provided, while taking or attempting to take big game under the provisions of Section 353 or Section 354, Title 14, CCR, it is unlawful to use any device or devices which: 1) throw, cast or project an artificial light or electronically alter or intensify a light source for the purpose of visibly enhancing an animal; or 2) throw, cast or project an artificial light or electronically alter or intensify a light source for the purpose of providing a visible point of aim directly on an animal. Devices commonly referred to as "sniperscopes", night vision scopes or binoculars, or those utilizing infra-red, heat sensing or other non-visible spectrum light technology used for the purpose of visibly enhancing an animal or providing a visible point of aim directly on an animal are prohibited and may not be possessed while taking or attempting to take big game. Devices commonly referred to as laser rangefinders, "red-dot" scopes with self-illuminating reticles, and fiberoptic sights with self illuminating sight or pins which do not throw, cast or project a visible light onto an animal are permitted.
 
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Ltdann,

Can you tell me what you like about the ghost rings. I'm ordering a CVA Accura for use here in Colorado. I've seen these sights mentioned a couple of times and I'm intrigued by them. I noticed that Truglo has a couple of different setups - Ghost Ring rear and Globe in front & Ghost and Notched in the rear and a standard sight in the front. Having trouble visualizing that one!

Which do you use?
 

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What I like about the ghost ring setup is that your eye is immediately drawn to the front post sight and the target beyond. It happens naturally. The ghost ring doesn't easily allow you to have a misalignment picture. I like the fiber optic feature for low light conditions.

When using iron sights, you have to get the rear V centered on the front blade and make sure the front blade is in the right postition and THEN put the whole thing on the target. Thats alot of stuff going on, particularly when trying to take a running snap shot.

I currently have a scope on my ML but will switch to Ghost Ring Rear and Globe front if I draw a ML only hunt. I wish they made a setup for my hawkins. Nothing yet for octagon barrels.
 

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Dan: you can put a peep on a Hawken rifle; I did. An open aperture hunting peep is a great sight for quick target acquisition. Look on Midway and check out there tang mounted peep sights.
 

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Dan: you can put a peep on a Hawken rifle; I did. An open aperture hunting peep is a great sight for quick target acquisition. Look on Midway and check out there tang mounted peep sights.

I'll check it out, thanks. Hows the pigs looking?
 

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Another vote for the peep site (aperture) over the buckhorn. Great for older eyes too. Williams makes some fine peep sites.

The last red dot (Konus) I set up didn't take long, maybe 10 minutes to mount it and then 10 minutes to zero it. It was a 4 MOA red dot so it would cover a lot of hide out at 150 yards. I like crosshairs or peeps better.
 

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Another nice thing about a good peep sight is you can put a target aperture in it to shoot on the range, then change it out for hunting in low light. I have an okay one on my Sharps 45-70 that I have shot 1/2" groups at 100 meters with, then swapped apertures and killed hogs right at dark.

Dan: we went out night before last but saw no hogs. Unusual, but it's getting to be that time of year.
 
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