Shane

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This is a thread from the past that received positive response. So, I thought I would bring forward once again since we've got so many more members and visitors who may find these tips helpful this year. I hope they help you keep more meat in the freezer. Please share your experiences and techniques.

Scenario:
You've got that trophy on the ground. It's 70+ degrees (in AZ during archery season) at noon and you are 2 miles from the truck. It's easy to lose meat in this situation. Try these tips. I've used them for many years on deer and elk.

This especially applies with large animals and lengthy stays or pack jobs.

1) The most important thing to do is to get the hide off as soon as possible.

2) quarter the animal up. Keep it clean! If you are not going to cut it up, just open it up (full chest and neck open).

3) "The trick" - I use a solution of vinegar and black pepper (like salad dressing really) and rub the meat down with the solution. Obviously you can't pack this stuff in if you are backpacking. But it doesn't "flavor" the meat and it kills/repels the yellow jackets and flies, etc.

4) Place each quarter (or small groups of meat) into the cotton mesh game bags. If the animal is hung whole, I use those military bivy bug nets. They perfectly fit an elk and the holes are really tiny.

5) Hang in the absolute coolest place you can... or hall ass to the nearest meat locker.

Anything around 40 degrees or less will be fine. I've left elk hanging (skinless) in creek bottoms where the nights were 30 degrees and the days were 65, for up to 4 days and the meat was in great shape. You lose more meat (from drying) the longer it is unprocessed. Deer is something like 2-4 lbs of lost meat each day it hangs.

Don't use plastic bags! It traps in and breeds the bacteria's and such. Like a green house. This will quicken the spoiling process.

Keep it clean, cool and dry, and it should be yummy - or serve as good bear bait.
 

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I am going elk hunting next week i have never got an elk in the summer how long do i have to get it outta the woods before its starts to go bad a deer is easy i can pack that bastid out on my back but an elk ya right!!!!!!!!
 

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oops i guess i should of read the top eh man im a dummy lol like that test in school read all the directions first then the last direction is to just put your name on it geez i failed that test too
 

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Hey Or/Elkster, it will begin the process of decay pretty much immediately after it's dead. The heat of the day quickens the process. You'll want the hide off of it within an hour or two.

Also note, removing the hide and quartering the body isn't always enough. The larger bones of elk-sized animals hold a lot of heat. You may also want to make cuts along the leg bones and joints in order to allow the heat to escape quicker.

You don't necessarily have to completely bone the animal out right there, but cooling the meat asap is your goal.

Keep it cool, keep it clean and keep the bugs off of it and you'll have lots of good eats.

Best of luck this season.
 

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Well if anyone is coming here to Colorado for Archery Elk/Deer they might get a break this year. It has been really cool with high's only in the 60's and 40's at night and that where I live in the Springs.

Pikes Peak got its first snow of the season the other day.
 

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One of the points stressed in wildlife mgt classes was proper game care so on hunting trips wherever I go I try to help hunters and give them advice on game care dos and donts but the eastern hunters were the most bullheaded.They never skinned out their deer or elk , left them on the ground or hanging from a power pole when daytime temps were up to the 80's and it didn't get cold enough at night.Trying to reason with them was a waste of my time cause they'd fall back on"where we hunt it's never done that way"what they failed to realize where they hunt it's cold with frozen ground and lots of snow but in many western states the ground wasn't frozen and there was no snow.
 

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It would be great if all hunters learned how to care for game before taking to the fields.
 

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Originally posted by COHunter@Aug 23 2004, 07:00 AM
Well if anyone is coming here to Colorado for Archery Elk/Deer they might get a break this year. It has been really cool with high's only in the 60's and 40's at night and that where I live in the Springs.

Pikes Peak got its first snow of the season the other day.


I was camping in Winfield this last weekend to climb another 14er and the temps dropped to the high 20's at night and it snowed on Friday. Had to kick through the snow from about 12,500 on up to 14,000 ft. Maybe the first year in awhile here in Colorado that we get some cooler temps during hunting seasons and even some snow!
Well if anyone is coming here to Colorado for Archery Elk/Deer they might get a break this year. It has been really cool with high's only in the 60's and 40's at night and that where I live in the Springs.

Pikes Peak got its first snow of the season the other day.


I was camping in Winfield this last weekend to climb another 14er and the temps dropped to the high 20's at night and it snowed on Friday. Had to kick through the snow from about 12,500 on up to 14,000 ft. Maybe the first year in awhile here in Colorado that we get some cooler temps during hunting seasons and even some snow!
 

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I still wouldn't trust cold temps to cool an elk down quick enough. I killed an elk years ago, in november. There was a good foot of snow on the ground at that time.
I killed the cow in the morning around 8:00 I gutted it and was lucky enough to drive to it. We got it whole in the back of the truck. Then we took snow and packed the chest cavity full.

That evening when my dad got home he helped me skin it out. It had been about 12 hours since I killed her and as we were skinning the hind 1/4ers steam was comming off of her. I was lucky and didn't loose any meat to "sour."

Now I imediatly skin all game, deer/elk. If it is at night I will 1/4er it and hang them with bone in but opened up along the bone to alow air flow. I will take out "backstraps" and tenderloin with me. I return in the morning at sunrise finish deboneing and then I start packing.
 

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Okay maybe this is a real dumb question, but I don't have anywhere to "hang my meat" and wait for a few days. why can't I just go ahead and pull the hide off and quarter it right away, then put it in the cooler and take it home. Then put it in the fridge for a few days, then butcher it and freeze it?
 

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jephs,

That will work just fine. you might even try letting whatever cut you are going to cook sit in the fridge for 3 or 4 days after you thaw it.

Dave
 

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Originally posted by jephs422@Oct 21 2004, 03:38 PM
Okay maybe this is a real dumb question, but I don't have anywhere to "hang my meat" and wait for a few days. why can't I just go ahead and pull the hide off and quarter it right away, then put it in the cooler and take it home. Then put it in the fridge for a few days, then butcher it and freeze it?
Your plan works well. I think the main idea though is if you don't have access to coolers or fridges for a couple of days. Backpack trips or drop camps or if you are hunting 6-7 miles from your truck are all examples of times you need to know how to properly handle the meat.
 

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hi,, hey what is the formula for that vinegar/pepper solutioon,,,thanks
 
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