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I was curious about the ML only hunt at East Park and was wondering what the success rate is? Its a bit far from LA but it would have the advantege of scouting for deer and elk if one can ever draw a tag there. Also my understanding is that a modern ML can be accurate up to 200 yds with a good scope but I don't know much about ML's.

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Hey Lefty, yes with sabots and a scope I am in the 3" group at 200 yds with the inline and should get much better with more practice. Little caviot is that you can't use a scope in the ML only hunts. so you are back down to 100-125 yds for an ethical shot. With elk though that is less of a problem. They don't seem to be as spooky as deer or pigs...Takes some practice and reading to get your loads with the ML right though. There is a "lot" more to think about other than just breathing and cross hairs. And for all intents and purposes you really only get one shot...
 

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Hey Lefty, yes with sabots and a scope I am in the 3" group at 200 yds with the inline and should get much better with more practice. Little caviot is that you can't use a scope in the ML only hunts. so you are back down to 100-125 yds for an ethical shot. With elk though that is less of a problem. They don't seem to be as spooky as deer or pigs...Takes some practice and reading to get your loads with the ML right though. There is a "lot" more to think about other than just breathing and cross hairs. And for all intents and purposes you really only get one shot...

The East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt is not categorized in regulation as a typical muzzleloader only hunt, and therefore is not subject to the provisions of Regulations section 353(f). Hence, you may use a scoped muzzleloader during the East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt.
-Marc
 

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Thank You DFG Bear. BTW what is the sucess rate in round numbers for the East Resivor hunt?

thanks Again;
Leftyhunter
 

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Is archery equipment legal to use for this hunt?
 

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The East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt is not categorized in regulation as a typical muzzleloader only hunt, and therefore is not subject to the provisions of Regulations section 353(f). Hence, you may use a scoped muzzleloader during the East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt.
-Marc
woops didn't realize this was the pig hunt...:bag-on-head:
 

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I hunted elk there in '06 and there were pigs-a-plenty. But that was before there was a pig hunt.
 

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According to a County ordinance on this property, the East Park Reservoir Elk and Pig hunts are muzzleloader only. Archery is not allowed.

Over the past 12 months, hunters have harvested no pigs off this property. There are about 35 - 50 pigs on this property, but they are not confined by a fence, and there is a no-shooting zone. The pigs like to hide there during the day.

Last year, before I took this job, I guided a friend of mine who drew this hunt, and I got him on two hogs - one over 280 lbs, easy. Somehow, he managed to miss both shots. Similarly, during this spring's hunt, we had over 8 shots taken, but every one missed its mark.

By the way, the Department is offering a marksmanship class as part of our advanced hunter education, if you're interested: September 29, 2007 Upland Game Hunting Clinic (Link name is incorrect, but directs you to the right page).

-Marc
 

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I hunted there on the opening weekend of this year's spring hunt... I was in pigs both days (about 25-30 the first day with some BIG ones) and 5 the second day. I never was within range to take one with the muzzleloader. I was close both times, and could have possibly made a move on them, but I had another hunter screwing things up for me. He really pissed me off on both days because of some of his tactics. The thing that really pissed me off is when he ran down on the first morning (and I do mean ran) and went straight into the closed zone. He actually went clear to the creek, and then proceeded to walk out the closed zone as well as doing his best to go into the blackberries and riparian stuff. The big herd of pigs came down of the ridge and ran right to the closed zone where this hunter and his 5 year old were standing. He shot as they ran by at about 50 yards. I "gently" gave him some guidance that he was in the closed zone, but I didn't want to chew him a new one considering his young son was there. But there is NO WAY a person can not know where the closed zone is, because DFG provides maps/aerial photos which clearly mark where the zone is. They also repeatedly explain to you where the closed zone is on the morning orientations.

The same guy ended up taking a shot right at dark on the first morning. I was very close by, but had began the walk back about one minute before he shot. The lighting was questionable as to whether you could see to shoot. The following morning he took off with his son at a dead run again. His son kept tripping and falling in the dark... I'm not totally bashing this method, because a person that knows this hunt knows that it is a good idea to get down on the edge of the closed zone at first and last light. The same guy ended up having two big boars run right up in front of him (at 20 yards) and caught him daydreaming.

I decided to go hiking the second morning just to get away from this guy. I made my way towards the end of the peninsula. I turned around and there was the guy and his son about 100 yards away! I decided to head back towards the closed zone. The minute this guy saw me change directions, he grabbed his kid by the arm and took off running for the closed zone! So I decided to head to the opposite side of the peninsula, even though I knew there were probably few pigs over there. About an hour later, I crest the top of the ridge to go back to the closed zone. You guessed it, I bumped into the guy and his kid again! He told me that he was going to site his gun in being that he missed the 2 shots the day before. So he wandered down towards the peninsula shooting every so often. I couldn't take it anymore and went home.

Despite the negative encounters with this guy, it is a very worthwhile hunt. There are a BUNCH of elk, deer, coyotes, and some pigs and turkeys around... It was nice and green while I was there... It can be brutal if it's hot, dry, and brown...

Ken
 

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to draw a hunt like that and a guy mess it up for me i prolly would have decked the guy
 

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Decking someone even if they are in the wrong but cause no injury, just opens a whole can of worms. Not to mention other charges if law officials can involved.The best thing is making him aware of his ethics,wrong doing and report him to an official or just walk away because it ain't worth the time spent.
 

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According to a County ordinance on this property, the East Park Reservoir Elk and Pig hunts are muzzleloader only. Archery is not allowed.

Over the past 12 months, hunters have harvested no pigs off this property. There are about 35 - 50 pigs on this property, but they are not confined by a fence, and there is a no-shooting zone. The pigs like to hide there during the day.

Last year, before I took this job, I guided a friend of mine who drew this hunt, and I got him on two hogs - one over 280 lbs, easy. Somehow, he managed to miss both shots. Similarly, during this spring's hunt, we had over 8 shots taken, but every one missed its mark.

By the way, the Department is offering a marksmanship class as part of our advanced hunter education, if you're interested: September 29, 2007 Upland Game Hunting Clinic (Link name is incorrect, but directs you to the right page).

-Marc

That right there is funny after your comments about people missing some shots!:lol bashing sign:
 

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The East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt is not categorized in regulation as a typical muzzleloader only hunt, and therefore is not subject to the provisions of Regulations section 353(f). Hence, you may use a scoped muzzleloader during the East Park Reservoir Pig Hunt.
-Marc

Great !! I hope I get a chance to draw sounds like it can be a fun hunt.
 

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I sure hope to find out how good this is come December! If so I certainly hope not to have a yahoo like that on the hunt too. Sounds like if someone has good skills they will get a pig.
 

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By the way, the Department is offering a marksmanship class as part of our advanced hunter education, if you're interested: September 29, 2007 Upland Game Hunting Clinic (Link name is incorrect, but directs you to the right page).

-Marc

Marc, good to know about his class but this year's marksmanship class was on June 19th. Doesn't appear to have another this year.
 

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No more marksmanship classes scheduled this year. We should have another next year.
 
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