I have a buddy who is new to bowhunting and is headed to Maui the first week in Nov. He would love to do some hunting. Any of you Hawaii guys care to point him in the right direction? Maybe some general public land where he can start looking? Or a good guide who is reasonable? Hogs, goats, axis, whatever. you can email me if you'd prefer. Much appreciated.
Probably the best bet is the Kula Forest Reserve Unit C and Unit E.
Unit E is archery only and is Pine, Redwood, and Douglas Fir Forest so you'll feel like you're in Northern California minus the squirrels. Open daily, year around, 2 pigs daily.
Unit C will have Bird Hunting on the week ends November thru January (3rd week end) so closed on week ends for mammals but open during the week 2 goats daily. This Unit is above the tree line so open and can glass though more difficult to stalk due to less cover.
Unit E is archery only and is Pine, Redwood, and Douglas Fir Forest so you'll feel like you're in Northern California minus the squirrels. Open daily, year around, 2 pigs daily.
Unit C will have Bird Hunting on the week ends November thru January (3rd week end) so closed on week ends for mammals but open during the week 2 goats daily. This Unit is above the tree line so open and can glass though more difficult to stalk due to less cover.
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SDHNTR,
If your friend uses Google Earth I can make up a KML file of the hunting area boundary. No charge for JHO.
Uncle Ji,
How is your back doing? Much better I hope. My wife wants to go to the San Jose State game at Aloha Stadium on the 27th, so it looks like I will be there with my bad back and all. I will post our Section, Roll, and Seat Number when the tickets arrive. The visiting team usually sits in one of the corners, with us Faithful way up at the very top of that corner.
mr_eisma, HIhunter, and other Hawaiian JHO'ers, lets have a JHO Tailgate Party before the game, right in front of Aloha Stadium. (with the yuppies) I'm pretty sure that Jesse will approve, but someone on your side will have to get permission to Tailgate from U of Hawaii. There is a link for tailgating at the U of Hawaii Football Web Site. It is common practice before a game.
Richard
If your friend uses Google Earth I can make up a KML file of the hunting area boundary. No charge for JHO.
Uncle Ji,
How is your back doing? Much better I hope. My wife wants to go to the San Jose State game at Aloha Stadium on the 27th, so it looks like I will be there with my bad back and all. I will post our Section, Roll, and Seat Number when the tickets arrive. The visiting team usually sits in one of the corners, with us Faithful way up at the very top of that corner.
mr_eisma, HIhunter, and other Hawaiian JHO'ers, lets have a JHO Tailgate Party before the game, right in front of Aloha Stadium. (with the yuppies) I'm pretty sure that Jesse will approve, but someone on your side will have to get permission to Tailgate from U of Hawaii. There is a link for tailgating at the U of Hawaii Football Web Site. It is common practice before a game.
Richard
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uncle Ji @ Sep 15 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
If he hunts above tree line he'll only get an early morning hunt in, by late morning the the clouds roll in and he'd be lucky to get 20 yards visibility.
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No offense but I beg to differ, I lived on the bottom edge of Unit C for 12 years until just last year September, and hunted it regularly for the 10 years before that. Out of the countless times I've hunted and traveled both Unit C & E I only recall maybe 2 or 3 times when the clouds came in as you described, and that was in the old Unit C Kahikinui Forest Reserve that section exposed to the moist trade winds but also that section of hunt C returned to the Hawaiian Homes Commission who promptly leased it to a private hunting club this happening some 13 years ago.
Clouds would form on many days but not above tree line, these clouds forming way lower at about the 5000' elevation which is below the 7000' level of Unit E or the higher elevation area at top of Unit C. I used to drive up into Unit C in the afternoons to scout and sight in my rifles regularly, sometimes you drive through the clouds (fog) but it would clear up as you gained elevation. Did you ever actually hunt here or are you just passing second hand information? It definitely could have occurred the one time you may have hunted here if/when you did but it is not a everyday occurance as you are suggesting.
Here's some mid day pictures taken at Unit C during a recent (November 07) Chukar hunt, which gives you an idea of the terrain and weather condition there.
If he hunts above tree line he'll only get an early morning hunt in, by late morning the the clouds roll in and he'd be lucky to get 20 yards visibility.
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No offense but I beg to differ, I lived on the bottom edge of Unit C for 12 years until just last year September, and hunted it regularly for the 10 years before that. Out of the countless times I've hunted and traveled both Unit C & E I only recall maybe 2 or 3 times when the clouds came in as you described, and that was in the old Unit C Kahikinui Forest Reserve that section exposed to the moist trade winds but also that section of hunt C returned to the Hawaiian Homes Commission who promptly leased it to a private hunting club this happening some 13 years ago.
Clouds would form on many days but not above tree line, these clouds forming way lower at about the 5000' elevation which is below the 7000' level of Unit E or the higher elevation area at top of Unit C. I used to drive up into Unit C in the afternoons to scout and sight in my rifles regularly, sometimes you drive through the clouds (fog) but it would clear up as you gained elevation. Did you ever actually hunt here or are you just passing second hand information? It definitely could have occurred the one time you may have hunted here if/when you did but it is not a everyday occurance as you are suggesting.
Here's some mid day pictures taken at Unit C during a recent (November 07) Chukar hunt, which gives you an idea of the terrain and weather condition there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mapmaker @ Sep 16 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
ARGH I've been invited to participate in a Papio fishing tournament for that week end at Kaneohe Bay.
ARGH I've been invited to participate in a Papio fishing tournament for that week end at Kaneohe Bay.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uncle Ji @ Sep 16 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
Ouch! I guess I'm just a stupid hoale.
From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Glass eye @ Sep 17 2008, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
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Hey Glass, Uncle didn't mean anything by that remark. Stick around. We enjoy your posts. Notice how I can sit here in San Francisco and map the Hawaiian Hunting Areas. This computer stuff is absolutly amazing.
Uncle, it looks like the Hawaiians don't Tailgate before a football game, becasue the Pre-Game Party is the night before. It will be at the Tiki's Grill and Bar located inside ResortQuest Hawai'i Hotel at Waikiki. There will be some harsh words spoken against U of Hawaii, so I don't recommend meeting in that place.
Rachel and I will be seated in Section "R" Row 8 Seats 10 & 11 at Aloha Stadium. Hope we can get a few Hawaiian JHO guys together for some talk about pig hunting after the game.
Richard
Ouch! I guess I'm just a stupid hoale.
From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
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Hey Glass, Uncle didn't mean anything by that remark. Stick around. We enjoy your posts. Notice how I can sit here in San Francisco and map the Hawaiian Hunting Areas. This computer stuff is absolutly amazing.
Uncle, it looks like the Hawaiians don't Tailgate before a football game, becasue the Pre-Game Party is the night before. It will be at the Tiki's Grill and Bar located inside ResortQuest Hawai'i Hotel at Waikiki. There will be some harsh words spoken against U of Hawaii, so I don't recommend meeting in that place.
Rachel and I will be seated in Section "R" Row 8 Seats 10 & 11 at Aloha Stadium. Hope we can get a few Hawaiian JHO guys together for some talk about pig hunting after the game.
Richard
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SDHNTR,
http://www.mauihuntingsafari.com/about_us.htm
http://www.mauideerhunting.com/
http://www.gamebirdhunts.com/us-hunting/Hawaii.asp
http://www.johann-sandra.com/hawaii/maui/mauihunting.htm
Here a few! Good luck!!
Da traffic is crazy right after the game, often times we would leave early and hang out at my cousins house over looking the stadium and
"SUCKEM UP"!! TAKO POKI
Damm do I miss home. Its Been almost 3 or 4 years.
http://www.mauihuntingsafari.com/about_us.htm
http://www.mauideerhunting.com/
http://www.gamebirdhunts.com/us-hunting/Hawaii.asp
http://www.johann-sandra.com/hawaii/maui/mauihunting.htm
Here a few! Good luck!!
Da traffic is crazy right after the game, often times we would leave early and hang out at my cousins house over looking the stadium and
"SUCKEM UP"!! TAKO POKI
Damm do I miss home. Its Been almost 3 or 4 years.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Huntr Pat @ Sep 17 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
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Sheesh, don't be so hard on yourself (and the word is haole). You presented a statement as a fact from some sort of expert which almost totally differed from my 22+ years of extensive hunting of this area which was literally my backyard which really made me wonder what your real experience was hunting on Maui if any. If you do have the experience you allude to I'd love to hear the facts.
I hunted in Hondo, Texas for the first time back in February, and have lived and hunted in Idaho back in the early 80s but I would never try and lead anyone to believe I'm some sort of authority on the hunting of these two places. If I was to post about these places (and I have) I plainly state my amount of experience first as a disclaimer so as not to lead anyone astray. I look forward to any authentic Hawaii posts you have to offer in all sincerity.
If he hunts above tree line he'll only get an early morning hunt in, by late morning the the clouds roll in and he'd be lucky to get 20 yards visibility.
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Ouch! I guess I'm just a stupid hoale.
From now on I won't touch a Hawaiian thread.
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Sheesh, don't be so hard on yourself (and the word is haole). You presented a statement as a fact from some sort of expert which almost totally differed from my 22+ years of extensive hunting of this area which was literally my backyard which really made me wonder what your real experience was hunting on Maui if any. If you do have the experience you allude to I'd love to hear the facts.
I hunted in Hondo, Texas for the first time back in February, and have lived and hunted in Idaho back in the early 80s but I would never try and lead anyone to believe I'm some sort of authority on the hunting of these two places. If I was to post about these places (and I have) I plainly state my amount of experience first as a disclaimer so as not to lead anyone astray. I look forward to any authentic Hawaii posts you have to offer in all sincerity.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Huntr Pat @ Sep 17 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Yes, the traffic at the Stadium is really bad. By the way, the least expensive way to get back and forth to the Islands is to work for an airline. I am retired from United and they even let us retirees stay at their hotel with the flight crews.
Do you recognize the scenery in the background of picture 3 of 4 in this link?
http://www.danblanton.com/viewpictures.php?id=110439
The fishing spot pictured looks like it's near Aloha Stadium where I can sneak over and do some fly fishing? I only have two days during this trip, so I wont be able to scout the Hunting Areas.
Richard
Yes, the traffic at the Stadium is really bad. By the way, the least expensive way to get back and forth to the Islands is to work for an airline. I am retired from United and they even let us retirees stay at their hotel with the flight crews.
Do you recognize the scenery in the background of picture 3 of 4 in this link?
http://www.danblanton.com/viewpictures.php?id=110439
The fishing spot pictured looks like it's near Aloha Stadium where I can sneak over and do some fly fishing? I only have two days during this trip, so I wont be able to scout the Hunting Areas.
Richard
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uncle Ji @ Sep 18 2008, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I don't believe that warning a hunter that clouds forming upcountry is leading anyone astray. He only has ONE day to hunt.
Ok uncle Gee, I'm sure your knowledge of the area is far superior to mine. I lived on Maui for 3 years and my brother had a house in Kula. I still have family living on Maui and I've spent alot of time upcountry (not 22+ years) but enough to know that the mornings are clear and as the day progresses the clouds form. I was not trying to steal your thunder or take anything away from your post, but obviously you resent the fact that a hAOle would talk about your backyard. Perhaps you've never been fogged in at the ballpark, perhaps the sunshine follows you everywhere you go, or perhaps the clouds follow me. Or maybe I never went up high enough to get above the clouds and we're talking about 2 different elevations. In any case, I respected your entire thread until the end when you gave me stink-eye, just as you did again with the pulling-down shades.Sheesh, don't be so hard on yourself (and the word is haole). You presented a statement as a fact from some sort of expert which almost totally differed from my 22+ years of extensive hunting of this area which was literally my backyard which really made me wonder what your real experience was hunting on Maui if any. If you do have the experience you allude to I'd love to hear the facts.
I hunted in Hondo, Texas for the first time back in February, and have lived and hunted in Idaho back in the early 80s but I would never try and lead anyone to believe I'm some sort of authority on the hunting of these two places. If I was to post about these places (and I have) I plainly state my amount of experience first as a disclaimer so as not to lead anyone astray. I look forward to any authentic Hawaii posts you have to offer in all sincerity.[/b]
I don't believe that warning a hunter that clouds forming upcountry is leading anyone astray. He only has ONE day to hunt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Glass eye @ Sep 18 2008, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Good to hear you actually lived here, probably drove right by house on your way to the hunting area. Sure it sometimes gets cloudy in the afternoon (rarely above tree line, that's why there are no trees, no moisture trees need to grow, clouds=moisture), but you state things in the absolute "If he hunts above tree line he'll only get an early morning hunt in, by late morning the the clouds roll in and he'd be lucky to get 20 yards visibility." You make this sound like a everyday regular occurance which it is not, not by far. The "Ballpark" is where I sight in my rifles usually on week day afternoons which according to you should be totally clouded in which I never experienced. I also start and end my bird and goat hunts from the "Ballpark" which usually starts at sunrise and ends at the soonest at 12 noon but sometimes until sunset. I don't care if you're Haole, Popolo, Pa'ele, Pilipino, Kepani, or Martian, you brought your ethnicity up not me, and it has no bearing on this subject (the race card don't even work in politics nowadays). Perhaps the clouds do follow you, I don't know. Your "warning" the way you worded it could discourage a hunter from ever trying this area, or have the hunter prepare for a 4 hour hunt expecting the bad weather (that you pretty much guaranteed) then when the weather turns out instead beautiful for the whole day it may leave him ill prepared (less water, no food, no sun screen, etc.) so he heads back down dejected, or worse yet he decides to rough it up there for the whole beautiful day and runs out of water and food which lead to exhaustion, hypothermia, extreme sunburn, etc. If he has ONE day to hunt why discourage him from hunting up there at all? Did you offer a better alternative? Like I said before I lived and hunted in Idaho 25+ years ago but I would never counter advice of a native Idahoan with my limited in comparison experience.
I never considered requesting credentials to verify experience as a "stink-eye" (do you even know what that term means?), nor did I know there was a hidden negative meaning to the "putting on shades" smiley (nine to choose from, no regular smiley nor wink smiley, closest appropriate smiley out of the nine, no offense meant), shades protect the eyes from the sun and flying debris which I was expecting, you read way too much into things.
I'd love to hear about your hunting experiences on Maui in detail, so would allot of other people, places hunted, game pursued, methods used, always good reading. (left out all smileys to be safe this time)
Good to hear you actually lived here, probably drove right by house on your way to the hunting area. Sure it sometimes gets cloudy in the afternoon (rarely above tree line, that's why there are no trees, no moisture trees need to grow, clouds=moisture), but you state things in the absolute "If he hunts above tree line he'll only get an early morning hunt in, by late morning the the clouds roll in and he'd be lucky to get 20 yards visibility." You make this sound like a everyday regular occurance which it is not, not by far. The "Ballpark" is where I sight in my rifles usually on week day afternoons which according to you should be totally clouded in which I never experienced. I also start and end my bird and goat hunts from the "Ballpark" which usually starts at sunrise and ends at the soonest at 12 noon but sometimes until sunset. I don't care if you're Haole, Popolo, Pa'ele, Pilipino, Kepani, or Martian, you brought your ethnicity up not me, and it has no bearing on this subject (the race card don't even work in politics nowadays). Perhaps the clouds do follow you, I don't know. Your "warning" the way you worded it could discourage a hunter from ever trying this area, or have the hunter prepare for a 4 hour hunt expecting the bad weather (that you pretty much guaranteed) then when the weather turns out instead beautiful for the whole day it may leave him ill prepared (less water, no food, no sun screen, etc.) so he heads back down dejected, or worse yet he decides to rough it up there for the whole beautiful day and runs out of water and food which lead to exhaustion, hypothermia, extreme sunburn, etc. If he has ONE day to hunt why discourage him from hunting up there at all? Did you offer a better alternative? Like I said before I lived and hunted in Idaho 25+ years ago but I would never counter advice of a native Idahoan with my limited in comparison experience.
I never considered requesting credentials to verify experience as a "stink-eye" (do you even know what that term means?), nor did I know there was a hidden negative meaning to the "putting on shades" smiley (nine to choose from, no regular smiley nor wink smiley, closest appropriate smiley out of the nine, no offense meant), shades protect the eyes from the sun and flying debris which I was expecting, you read way too much into things.
I'd love to hear about your hunting experiences on Maui in detail, so would allot of other people, places hunted, game pursued, methods used, always good reading. (left out all smileys to be safe this time)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uncle Ji @ Sep 18 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
OMG! what a scenario I'm potentially guilty of. I never contradicted your authentic hawaiian advise, all I suggested was for him to get an early start before the clouds roll in. Sheesh !
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You didn't suggest anything, you gave inaccurate advice based on limited experience. You spoke in absolutes like some sort of superior authority on the subject. You countered what I said, and offered nothing positive, no options. You're angry because you were wrong.
You seem to have a complex, a Haole versus Hawaiian, a "us versus them" obsession. I never brought up your Haoleness but you seem to be bothered by it, and try to use it to try and gain sympathy here. You sound like a closet racist, probably why you moved back to the Mainland, I'm guessing you had your superior attitude handed right back at you on a plate by a Hawaiian and you have resented it ever since.
I almost feel sorry for you.
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You didn't suggest anything, you gave inaccurate advice based on limited experience. You spoke in absolutes like some sort of superior authority on the subject. You countered what I said, and offered nothing positive, no options. You're angry because you were wrong.
You seem to have a complex, a Haole versus Hawaiian, a "us versus them" obsession. I never brought up your Haoleness but you seem to be bothered by it, and try to use it to try and gain sympathy here. You sound like a closet racist, probably why you moved back to the Mainland, I'm guessing you had your superior attitude handed right back at you on a plate by a Hawaiian and you have resented it ever since.
I almost feel sorry for you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mapmaker @ Sep 17 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Actually us Hawaiians are tailgaters extraordinaire, maybe the UH is discouraging the mixing of fans, I dunno. I watched the last UH home game (UH vs Weber State) at home but friends of mine did tailgate pre-game in the parking lot. Not sure if you saw my previous post but I was invited to participate in a Papio fishing tournament in Kaneohe Bay on the 25th-26th so probably will fish that Sunday. Mahalo for the invite.
Uncle, it looks like the Hawaiians don't Tailgate before a football game, becasue the Pre-Game Party is the night before. It will be at the Tiki's Grill and Bar located inside ResortQuest Hawai'i Hotel at Waikiki. There will be some harsh words spoken against U of Hawaii, so I don't recommend meeting in that place.
Richard[/b]
Actually us Hawaiians are tailgaters extraordinaire, maybe the UH is discouraging the mixing of fans, I dunno. I watched the last UH home game (UH vs Weber State) at home but friends of mine did tailgate pre-game in the parking lot. Not sure if you saw my previous post but I was invited to participate in a Papio fishing tournament in Kaneohe Bay on the 25th-26th so probably will fish that Sunday. Mahalo for the invite.
