Hog hunt with dogs and knife near San Francisco

[larrysogla]

As I understand it.......................it is illegal to take, harvest or kill a hog with a knife while HUNTING that hog. As I understand the D.F.G. booklet, a hunting activity in the state of California is authorized these methods of take.....firearm, bow, crossbow, trap(with a trapper's permit)......and NO other method of take while HUNTING the animal. I DO NOT see in the regulations where knifing is ALLOWED IN THE HUNTING ACTIVITY. It is NOT there. Butchering the animal.....NOT hunting the animal.......of course knives are allowed.
'Nuff said
larrysogla
P.S. It's your neck.....not mine. Do as you please. Lawyers are not cheap.

 

[spectr17]

#1Predator, you mentioned precedent had already been set in court over this. Who made the arrest or did the investigation? Do you have a court case # we can research?

Thanks

 

[RIFLEMAN]

larry,

I am not sure if your comments were meant as a response to mine, but I will assume so. I don't think anyone is disputing the assertion that you and others make that taking a hog with a knife when one is acting solely under the authority of a hunting license and hog tag is illegal. You are 100% correct.

But this alone does not mean that it is not possible to address Jesse's original request for information concerning opportunities to take a hog by knife in a high fence setting. This practice is legal on land managed under authority of a game breeder's permit. This permitting process allows for Sus scrofa to be bred, raised, killed, sold, and consumed without stipulation against the use of a knife. It does not mandate that the owner of the animal must be the only one to kill the animal nor does it prohibit the person taking or effectually buying the animal from simulating or replicating a hunting scenario. As I indicated previously, bird clubs are able to operate outside of many aspects of the regulations governing the take of upland game birds due simply to the fact that they possess a game breeder's permit.

I have included some of the more pertinent sections of the Fish and Game Code for your reference:

3200. Any person engaged in raising or importing, or who keeps in
captivity, in this state domesticated game birds or domesticated game
mammals which normally exist in the wild in this state shall procure
a domesticated game breeder's license if the birds or mammals are
kept more than 30 days after acquisition.

3201. No person shall sell the carcass of any domesticated game
bird or mammal without first obtaining a domesticated game breeder's
license from the department.

3202. There are classes of domesticated game breeder's licenses,
designated "class 1" and "class 2."
(a) A class 1 domesticated game breeder's license authorizes the
licensee to engage in all domesticated game breeding activities
except that not more than 175 Chinese ringneck or Mongolian ringneck
pheasants, or both, or hybrids thereof, may be sold under a class 1
license.

3204. A domesticated game breeder's license shall be conspicuously
displayed on the property where the birds or mammals are held in
captivity.

3206. No domesticated game bird or mammal shall be transported or
sold dead unless each quarter and each loin of the carcass of each
large mammal, the carcass of each bird, except as provided in Section
2401 for a domesticated game bird raised outside this State, and the
carcass of each small mammal is tagged with a domesticated game
breeder's tag or seal. The tag or seal shall not be removed until
such quarter, loin, or carcass is prepared for consumption.
No tag or seal shall be sold by the department to anyone other
than a person who is legally in possession of domesticated game.

3214. Domesticated game breeders or other persons holding
domesticated game mammals in captivity shall confine the mammals in
escape-proof cages or enclosures. In the event any of the mammals
escape from the cages or enclosures, the owner shall immediately make
every reasonable effort to recapture them. If the owner fails to
recapture the escaped mammals, the department may capture the mammals
or remove them from the wild by whatever means may be necessary if,
in the opinion of the department, the mammals may conflict with
native species of birds or mammals or cause damage to public or
private property.
Any domesticated big game mammal may be marked with ear tags or
other suitable markings or tags, as may be specified by the
commission, which shall identify the owner of the mammals.

3216. All domesticated game birds and mammals, excepting deer, sold
under the provisions of this article, shall be killed otherwise than
by shooting. This section does not apply to licensed pheasant
clubs, licensed domesticated migratory game bird shooting areas, or
to the training or practice of hunting dogs.

 

[larrysogla]

Rifleman,
Many thanks for your specific info. As I understand it...........................
1) The high fence has to have a domesticated game breeders license on visible public display at the high fence property.
2) No firearm is allowed to harvest the animal......except in licensed pheasant hunt clubs and licensed migratory bird shooting areas.
3) Each quarters and each loins of the harvested animal has to be tagged with the domesticated game breeders seal or tag and removed only prior to consumption.
As I understand it.....you can knife a domesticated hog in a licensed domesticated game breeders ranch/farm..............and then tag each quarter and loins and keep the tags on until ready to cook the quarter or loins. It is sounding more and more like a complicated domesticated hog harvesting/butchering scenario............very technical and complicated. Much thanks for your very valuable input. You are a great asset to the hunting community and to this board.
God Bless, always
'Nuff said
larrysogla
P.S. I am a chicken anyways when it comes to sharp claws, biting teeth and knife like tusks. I like to plug 'em with a high powered rifle standing off at a safe distance to knock 'em deader than a doornail before I start approaching these powerful animals that in many documented accidents have seriously hurt or killed many unsuspecting hunters that have handled/approached them while the animals were still alive. I am not an emergency room candidate by any means. Thanks.