hog's with 357

[GENE L]

looking for some hints on bullet type for 357,for some hard headed hogs. thanks gene.

 

[manfreddy]

http://www.jesseshuntingpage.com/forums/in...l=&#entry158666

I haven't had to use my .357 yet, thankfully

 

[GENE L]

thanks for the link manfredy. last year i tracked a wounded pig for 9 hours,when i caught up to him he was pissed(225lbs) he charged me, i put 4 40's on top of his noodel, they all bounced off thank god my bud was behind me(pow)thanks again gene.

 

[boartracker]

Try: http://www.cor-bon.com/357magnum.html

I have bought some ammo from them but have not had a chance yet to test it on anything else but a 1/2 inch stainless steel plate. The 200 grain hardcast flat point put a nice hole in the plate. I shot a 350+ lbs boar two weeks ago with my .30-06. It was a one shot kill, but I also had my side arm, a Ruger GP-100 .357 mag. stuffed with CorBon ammo and ready to go.

Happy Hunting,

Boartracker.

 

[Hawghunter]

I only use my 44mag on hogs, with Garrett's 330grain hard cast bullets. However, I to have some cor-bon 200 grain hard cast .357 bullets I would use if I didn't have a 44mag. I think they will do the job nicly if you keep your distance close, especially if you are using dogs.
Just my thoughts...
Good Luck,
Mark

 

[GENE L]

thanks guys ill try the cor bon.gene

 

[Freedivr2]

Gene..........here's a couple shots of a 250 lb. boar I took with a .357 factory load last April. The cartridge was "American Eagle" (by the Federal Cartridge Company), and the box is marked "High velocity 158 Grain Jacketed SP AE357A". If you can't find em, here's the ballistics they advertise on the back of the box, maybe you can just get a jacketed soft point with the same chemistry; the following numbers represent velocity (in fps), Energy (in ft. lbs) and Height of bullet trajectory (in inches): @Muzzle; 1240/595/0; @25 yds: 1160/475/.2; @50 yds: 1100/430/.8; @75 yds: 1060/395/1.0; and @100 yds: 1020/365/3.5.

On the photo of the skull, you'll see the actual bullet damage (the bullet entered right side just behind the right eye and exited the left side of skull just behind and a bit into the right eye orbit). The distance was approx. 15-20 yards. I basically just purchased this ammo for closeup coup-de-gras, but wouldn't hesitate to use it again from a distance if I had the same opportunity for a good head shot. Hope this helps.

Shoot straight, KNOW your target AND what's beyond it!

 

[Hawghunter]

Freediver2,
Nice boar, and lots of damage with that bullet. I would only worry about an expanding bullet type anywhere other than a head shot. It's been my experience pigs have extreemly tough bodys, especially the larger boars.
They seem to be able to soak up quite a bit of lead before dying. Thats why I try and stick with the hard cast, for greater penetration. However, you can't argue with the results you had. JMO
Mark

 

[GruntHunter]

I'll give it to you short and straight .... THERE AIN'T NO GOOD .357 MAG LOAD FOR WILD HOGS ! ! !. I've been there and tried that and now I own a .44.

Take a look at my latest photos in my Wild Game Photos II album and see if you want to take the chance of pissing one of these bad boys off and having him come after you swinging those teeth all over the place. ;-)

GruntHunter

 

[Freedivr2]

Grunt hunter, I'm gunna agree and disagree with you. If you're doing body shots on pigs with a pistola, use at least a .41 mag, preferably a .44. But for head shots, a .357 works just fine (that's why I posted those pics, so you guys could see actual results.........check out the left side of the head.....entire brain cavity disentegrated).

All that said, my old reliable is and will remain to be my trusty Win. M70 in 30-06, 165 Nosler partition handloads......Drops em in their tracks about every time. But when a close head shot opportunity presents itself, and you're confident about your ability with your .357, take the head shot.

By the way, I have yet seen a boar run in any direction other than away from the sound of the gun when it goes off. I'm very aware of what bad attitudes some of those large rouge boar have and that they have gone after hunters, I'm just saying that all the hogs I've seen take off upon the shot. They all seem to know which way the gun is and which way the safety of the forest is.....now watch, I probably just jinxed myself and the next pig I'll wound and it'll charge my arse.....

 

[GruntHunter]

Originally posted by Freedivr2@Apr 12 2003, 07:00 PM
Grunt hunter, I'm gunna agree and disagree with you. If you're doing body shots on pigs with a pistola, use at least a .41 mag, preferably a .44. But for head shots, a .357 works just fine (that's why I posted those pics, so you guys could see actual results.........check out the left side of the head.....entire brain cavity disentegrated).

All that said, my old reliable is and will remain to be my trusty Win. M70 in 30-06, 165 Nosler partition handloads......Drops em in their tracks about every time. But when a close head shot opportunity presents itself, and you're confident about your ability with your .357, take the head shot.

By the way, I have yet seen a boar run in any direction other than away from the sound of the gun when it goes off. I'm very aware of what bad attitudes some of those large rouge boar have and that they have gone after hunters, I'm just saying that all the hogs I've seen take off upon the shot. They all seem to know which way the gun is and which way the safety of the forest is.....now watch, I probably just jinxed myself and the next pig I'll wound and it'll charge my arse.....

Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page. I use a Rem 700BDL .30-06 and 165 grain bullets. Last year I bought a Marlin .45-70 just for kicks. I have it loaded with 350 gr cast bullets. Now when I run across that 200 lb + trophy I won't be afraid to go for the shoulder to save the head for mounting. I'm still looking for a nice one to mount.

Also, I've never had one charge me either. All I've ever heard are stories. Maybe those came from hunters using dogs ;-) Interestingly enough though, we've dropped hogs dead right under our feeders and just left them there and other hogs have come right in and eaten corn lying right on top of the dead hog. If they catch your scent though, there're GONE ! ! !

 

[Speckmisser]

Not much to add here. If you're shooting up close and personal (like with dogs), or if you're using it as a back up or finishing gun, a properly loaded .357 is probably OK.

If a .357 is the only handgun you own, consider the advice that's come across so far. A deep penetrating, heavy bullet and head shots. But if you have the option, go with the .44.

I will add that, like a lot of you, hog charges had always been just "stories" to me too. But then my brother got charged last year at Tejon. The hog veered off, and my brother dropped him with a perfect quartering away heart shot... using a 44.

I think a lot of the time a charge is mainly a case that the pig can't see worth a hoot, and he's running blind. Problem is, even then, once he gets to you and realizes his error, you could be in for a world of hurt when he switches from flight to fight.

I was also "challenged" by a big boar at Tejon this year, after I had already shot my pig (only supposed to shoot one). He stared me down, stomped his front foot and popped his teeth. After one step toward me, just as I was getting ready to let rip with the .44, he turned and trotted away. I still wonder how much trouble I'd have been in with the ranch if I'd shot him, but it was sure starting to look like self-defense.

 

[nobuckkev]

There is not an animal out there that can run you over with any part of his spine shatterred. If I had to stop one charging, I would go for the neck or top of the spine. I have heard too many stories about bullets bouncing off of a pigs mellon. As for the first shot, I watched a show last week and the old guy said to put a round just forward of the shoulder and high and they will drop on the spot and sure enough, they did. My buddy and I hit two high this past weekend and they dropped right there. just don't ruin the back strap in the process.

 

[jrifenbark]

I was charged by two pigs last April on the South Side of Tejon. I was practically inside the herd when I fired. A big sow charged directly at me and when I raised my 336 she veered away. I heard the crunching of leaves behind and whipped around to see a smaller boar veer away at the last second.

I agree that the charges were probably due to poor eyesight. Whatever the cause, I now carry a stainless steel Ruger Blackhawk with a 4 and 5/8 inch barrle in .45 Long Colt whenever not in camp. I chose the Cor Bon 300 gr. JSP. They leave the stubby 4 5/8" barrle around 1,200 fps and generate over 1,000 lbs at the muzzle. The considerable recoil and muzzle flash allow on-lookers to join the fun.

 

[Dens228]

Last Monday I dropped a 200 plus boar at 65 yards with a .357 shot right behind the shoulder, exited out the neck on the opposite side a few inches behind the ear. Dropped right on the spot.
I was using 158 grain jacketed soft point.

 

[nobuckkev]

That sounds like the way to do it Dens. good job and congrats.