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WOW That thing doesn't look real!!! What a stud!
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You can now count on it taking twice as long as it was last year to draw a Monroe elk tag in Utah....
I can say that almost everything about that bull has soured me on what, to a large extent, trophy hunting and records keeping for big game has evolved into.
Sure, he was an awesome looking bull, but just all the shenanigans and hoopla that surrounded his last year running on Monroe Mt. really is a statement about our sport and the industry supporting it.
I can say that almost everything about that bull has soured me on what, to a large extent, trophy hunting and records keeping for big game has evolved into.
Sure, he was an awesome looking bull, but just all the shenanigans and hoopla that surrounded his last year running on Monroe Mt. really is a statement about our sport and the industry supporting it.
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well its nice to know if I ever decide to sell my house I can use the money to shoot a world record.
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Thank God I can't afford to hunt like this. You guys are tough.
If the Boone and Crockett Club accepted it then it was taken fair chase and it was a wild free range bull. Apparently all those stories about this bull and the hunt weren't true.
Congrats to the hunter and Team Mossback!
If the Boone and Crockett Club accepted it then it was taken fair chase and it was a wild free range bull. Apparently all those stories about this bull and the hunt weren't true.
Congrats to the hunter and Team Mossback!
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I'd like to read the hunters story about this, I've read 3-4 articles saying he spent almost a million on the tag and 500,000 to mossback.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DEERSLAM @ Jan 8 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I agree.
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After thinking about it a bit I believe this is the first World Record taken with a auction type tag. No. As I'm typing this I believe the World Record Bighorn was also taken with an auction tag. Probably the only two species that a World Record can be bought per say. They still need to be hunted. And both were hunted "posse" style. Oh well...still an amazing animal!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DEERSLAM @ Jan 8 2009, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Yes , that deserves more respect than being turned into a commodity. The only ones to blame, are ourselves for putting such a high value to antler inch totals. It is disgusting.
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QUOTE (DEERSLAM @ Jan 8 2009, 03:47 PM)
If the Boone and Crockett Club accepted it then it was taken fair chase and it was a wild free range bull.
Congrats to the hunter and Team Mossback!
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Ditto.
If the Boone and Crockett Club accepted it then it was taken fair chase and it was a wild free range bull.
Congrats to the hunter and Team Mossback!
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Ditto.
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WORLD RECORD ELK -- matthews-ONS 08jan09
Utah elk sets new world record mark
By JIM MATTHEWS Outdoor News Service
The largest-antlered bull elk ever taken by a hunter was shot by Denny Austad of Ammon, Idaho, in Utah on Sept. 30 last year and recognized by the Boone & Crockett Club of Missoula, Mont., as the new world record last Friday after final scoring by a panel of measurers.
On the B&C scoring system, which measures lengths and circumferences of the antlers and each tine, the bull scored 478 5/8 points or inches, 93 inches above the minimum score of 385 required for a bull to be included in the record books non-typical category and 13-plus inches larger than the previous world record.
The "spider" bull had gained a reputation in south-central Utah because he lived on public lands in the Fishlake National Forest, often seen right beside the road. His massive antlers sported nine points on one side and 14 points on the other, and almost all of the tines were long and sweeping.
Guide Doyle Moss of Mossback Outfitters filmed the huge bull during the summer and sent the footage to a regular client of his, Denny Austad.
"I told Doyle after watching the tape, "the body looks like an elk, but what's all that stuff on his head." He told me, "You have to come and try to get this bull, I don't think my life has been the same since July," said Austad this week.
Since the bull was on public land, and had a penchant for hanging out right next to a road while his antlers were still in velvet and growing, there were a lot of other hunters who knew about the bull and his spectacular size. Every archer, every muzzleloader, and every rifle hunter with a permit for the Monroe Mountain District were going to try to get this bull.
"I drove myself nutty getting ready for this trip," said Austad, a veteran 67-year-old hunter, who worked out diligently to get in better shape. A designer of wildcat rifle cartridges and custom hunting guns, Austad also did final tinkering with hunting loads that he knew with be accurate out to 600 yards under the right conditions.
Moss kept him posted on the status of the bull, which he started calling the "spider bull," giving the elk its knick-name. There were at least 30 hunters who tried to kill him during the archery season, and then another 30-plus more during the muzzleloader season, but once the bull's antlers hardened, he all but disappeared, reported Moss.
"The first day I knew this was going to be a difficult hunt," said Austad, who packed up his camping trailer and set up in early September. "I've never seen so much downed timber in my life. It seems like every other step was over a downed log. Ninty-eight percent of the area is heavy, dark timber."
Austad said that most Western hunting is done with binoculars and spotting scopes, finding the game at long distances and then sneaking into rifle range, but that wasn't going to be much of an option in this country. On Sept. 12, he and Moss had their first chance encounter with the bull during the season, but Austad couldn't get a shot. The next evening, while Austad was sleeping, his trailer fire alarm went off and he got up and vented out the trailer, but he realized quickly that something was wrong. He was very sick. Coming home, he found out he had carbon monoxide poisoning, and recovery is a slow process.
But Moss called him two weeks later and said he'd found the bull again and that it'd moved into an area that had more open ground and he thought there was a real chance to get him. Even though he still wasn't up to stuff, he made the trip back south. On Sept. 30, he and Moss saw the bull across a canyon, and as they worked into position, the bull spied them.
Austad had time for a quick shot at 180 yards and dropped the big bull instantly. Thirteen days of hard-hunting had come to end. Not only had Austad killed the biggest bull elk of all time, it was taken on public lands in a heavily hunted region.
No stranger to big elk, Austad has taken four other Utah bulls that score more than 400 B&C points, but he didn't realize the bull was this big. Its gross score of 499 3/8s is the only elk of all time to approach the 500-inch mark, and the Safari Club International score was 508.
The previous world's record for non-typical American elk was 465 2/8 B&C points. That bull was found dead, frozen in Upper Arrow Lake, British Columbia, in 1994, and was entered into Boone and Crockett Club records by the B.C. Ministry of Environment. For hunter-taken non-typical American elk, the previous top bull scored 450 6/8 B&C points, taken in 1998 in Apache County, Ariz., by Alan Hamberlin.
Austad figures his five-minutes of fame will fizzle soon, but the taxidermy mount of the huge bull is in his Idaho home on a pedestal in the middle of a room.
Utah elk sets new world record mark
By JIM MATTHEWS Outdoor News Service
The largest-antlered bull elk ever taken by a hunter was shot by Denny Austad of Ammon, Idaho, in Utah on Sept. 30 last year and recognized by the Boone & Crockett Club of Missoula, Mont., as the new world record last Friday after final scoring by a panel of measurers.
On the B&C scoring system, which measures lengths and circumferences of the antlers and each tine, the bull scored 478 5/8 points or inches, 93 inches above the minimum score of 385 required for a bull to be included in the record books non-typical category and 13-plus inches larger than the previous world record.
The "spider" bull had gained a reputation in south-central Utah because he lived on public lands in the Fishlake National Forest, often seen right beside the road. His massive antlers sported nine points on one side and 14 points on the other, and almost all of the tines were long and sweeping.
Guide Doyle Moss of Mossback Outfitters filmed the huge bull during the summer and sent the footage to a regular client of his, Denny Austad.
"I told Doyle after watching the tape, "the body looks like an elk, but what's all that stuff on his head." He told me, "You have to come and try to get this bull, I don't think my life has been the same since July," said Austad this week.
Since the bull was on public land, and had a penchant for hanging out right next to a road while his antlers were still in velvet and growing, there were a lot of other hunters who knew about the bull and his spectacular size. Every archer, every muzzleloader, and every rifle hunter with a permit for the Monroe Mountain District were going to try to get this bull.
"I drove myself nutty getting ready for this trip," said Austad, a veteran 67-year-old hunter, who worked out diligently to get in better shape. A designer of wildcat rifle cartridges and custom hunting guns, Austad also did final tinkering with hunting loads that he knew with be accurate out to 600 yards under the right conditions.
Moss kept him posted on the status of the bull, which he started calling the "spider bull," giving the elk its knick-name. There were at least 30 hunters who tried to kill him during the archery season, and then another 30-plus more during the muzzleloader season, but once the bull's antlers hardened, he all but disappeared, reported Moss.
"The first day I knew this was going to be a difficult hunt," said Austad, who packed up his camping trailer and set up in early September. "I've never seen so much downed timber in my life. It seems like every other step was over a downed log. Ninty-eight percent of the area is heavy, dark timber."
Austad said that most Western hunting is done with binoculars and spotting scopes, finding the game at long distances and then sneaking into rifle range, but that wasn't going to be much of an option in this country. On Sept. 12, he and Moss had their first chance encounter with the bull during the season, but Austad couldn't get a shot. The next evening, while Austad was sleeping, his trailer fire alarm went off and he got up and vented out the trailer, but he realized quickly that something was wrong. He was very sick. Coming home, he found out he had carbon monoxide poisoning, and recovery is a slow process.
But Moss called him two weeks later and said he'd found the bull again and that it'd moved into an area that had more open ground and he thought there was a real chance to get him. Even though he still wasn't up to stuff, he made the trip back south. On Sept. 30, he and Moss saw the bull across a canyon, and as they worked into position, the bull spied them.
Austad had time for a quick shot at 180 yards and dropped the big bull instantly. Thirteen days of hard-hunting had come to end. Not only had Austad killed the biggest bull elk of all time, it was taken on public lands in a heavily hunted region.
No stranger to big elk, Austad has taken four other Utah bulls that score more than 400 B&C points, but he didn't realize the bull was this big. Its gross score of 499 3/8s is the only elk of all time to approach the 500-inch mark, and the Safari Club International score was 508.
The previous world's record for non-typical American elk was 465 2/8 B&C points. That bull was found dead, frozen in Upper Arrow Lake, British Columbia, in 1994, and was entered into Boone and Crockett Club records by the B.C. Ministry of Environment. For hunter-taken non-typical American elk, the previous top bull scored 450 6/8 B&C points, taken in 1998 in Apache County, Ariz., by Alan Hamberlin.
Austad figures his five-minutes of fame will fizzle soon, but the taxidermy mount of the huge bull is in his Idaho home on a pedestal in the middle of a room.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spectr17 @ Jan 9 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Personally, I think it is great that a bull of this caliber was legally harvested and it was recorded on video--there is no doubt the Doyle and his guides, have consistently put folk's on trophy animals. Heck, I like to watch his videos. But, most people don't have the resources to pay for a fully guided hunt like this. And, most people don't have the resources to apply year after year for to multiple states, for a slim chance at a limited entry elk permit....much less an auction tag! I don't know how much this guy paid, or how many guides were on the payroll looking for this bull, but I would bet it was more that a 1X1 guided hunt. I think this is why most folk's have problems with the way this bull was taken. It would have been great to see this bull harvested by an traditional archer who walked back 6 miles in to the back country on a solo hunt. Or a hunter take the bull, on a blue-collar budget, like most of the buzzkiller's who frequent this board.
Personally, I think it is great that a bull of this caliber was legally harvested and it was recorded on video--there is no doubt the Doyle and his guides, have consistently put folk's on trophy animals. Heck, I like to watch his videos. But, most people don't have the resources to pay for a fully guided hunt like this. And, most people don't have the resources to apply year after year for to multiple states, for a slim chance at a limited entry elk permit....much less an auction tag! I don't know how much this guy paid, or how many guides were on the payroll looking for this bull, but I would bet it was more that a 1X1 guided hunt. I think this is why most folk's have problems with the way this bull was taken. It would have been great to see this bull harvested by an traditional archer who walked back 6 miles in to the back country on a solo hunt. Or a hunter take the bull, on a blue-collar budget, like most of the buzzkiller's who frequent this board.
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Simple. If you don't have anything good to say then move along. The buzzkillers are no longer welcome here. The elk was shot using fair chase according to B&C.
Can we get back on topic now?
SacFire, check Doyle's site for the release. http://www.mossback.com/
Can we get back on topic now?
SacFire, check Doyle's site for the release. http://www.mossback.com/
