bohunter3

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Well just got back from my 1st AZ hunt and Javelina hunt. I hunted area 36. I found Arizona to be very cold at night this time of year. I was camping in a tent. But the hunt was really fun. I saw plenty of muleys and white tail. Thats proably because I didnt have a tag.
I spent the first day glassing a canyon/ mountain side, Talked to about 15 other hunters too. everyone was having a hard tome finding the javelina. I think everyone, as was I, was glassing the bottom of the mountain sides. The second day I hiked about 3-4 miles back into another mountain side i was sure wasnt getting any pressure. While glassing for about an hour, I spotted some javelina at about 1000 yards, and up about 400-500 feet on the mountain side. Just a quick note, dont forget your tripod like I did for your binos. I used a stick to stablize mine. After about 1 1/2 hours of stalking up the back side of the mountain, I got within 30 yards from above the javelina. They had no Idea I was there until I arrowed the tree in front of one. ( almost took his nose off!) I had forgotten to take into acount the wind, which was really blowing. Well the wind helped because his buddied had no idea why the 1st javelina ran. They just froze. A second javelina walked over tp look at the arrow, and I hit him through the neck. The wind blew my arrow about 10 inches off target. Thought I was done, but the javelina didnt push back to my partner, they just stood there. My partner couldnt get a shot, so he signaled me to take one for him. Just then a pretty big one walked up about 20 yards away. Nailed him in the lungs with a perfect shot. Both pigs ran down the same path, with the other 14 pigs we hadnt noticed in the bedding area we walked into. After tracking the pigs down the mountain and searching until night (About 3 hours) We lost the pigs in a large tangle of cactus. Im sure they were in the cactus, we just could not get to them. I was poked full of holes trying to get them. We ended up leaving without finding those pigs, I was pretty bummed. After thinking about it, I think I pushed them too soon. I think they would have layed down sooner had I not tried to follow them so soon. I saw so much blood, I was sure they would be dead just a little way down the mountain, but I was wrong. Ill have to wait until next year now, but I still had fun.
 

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Just my matthews bow ( fingers) and 100 grain 4 blade muzzy blades
 

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Our sport is already taking heat from the anti's. I'm not sure if I would be posting your "losses" across the internet. Remember, archery hunters are not the only ones reading your posts....
 

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I disagree with Buckfinder a wee bit. I don't think it is wrong in any way to post your "losses", that's a part of hunting. However, if I were to question anything in what I read it would be the fact that the hunter hit one javelina and then shot another javelina. Is it ethical to shoot a second javelina when the first hit animal has not yet been confirmed dead or lost? But I think even more important, is it EVEN legal in Arizona to shoot two javies? You do only have ONE tag. As to the legalities I guess since the first animal was only wounded and not yet dead I suppose legally it was OK to shoot a second javie. right??? I know you were taking a shot for a friend which in it self may not be legal in AZ, I certainly am not sure. I'm not questioning the taking of two javies for two hunters, that's cool if it's legal in AZ. We all want to take home meat. What I'm asking/saying is it legal to shoot an animal for another hunter in AZ?
 

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However, if I were to question anything in what I read it would be the fact that the hunter hit one javelina and then shot another javelina. Is it ethical to shoot a second javelina when the first hit animal has not yet been confirmed dead or lost? But I think even more important, is it EVEN legal in Arizona to shoot two javies? You do only have ONE tag.[/b]

I think Orso raises a good point. I know in most cases, it's illegal to fill another hunter's tag. I don't know the specifics of AZ, and if someone does know, then please speak up.

But that aside, if you had one animal hit but not down, then you had no business shooting another until you'd recovered the first. Hate to be a critic here, but that's just a bad move on your part. These aren't vermin here, they're game animals. Maybe you still would have lost the first animal in the cactus, or maybe not... but as it is you lost TWO animals.

Killing game is certainly a goal of hunting. But it's not the end-all, be-all. If you're only out to fill tags, then go to a preserve or somewhere and shoot them in a pen.

I'd love to congratulate you on an enjoyable hunt, but what you've reported here is a pretty poor example of sportsmanship and ethics... and probably a breach of the law as well.
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bohunter3...I agree with the posts above, especially specs. These are seasoned veterans that have posted. Please listen to their words. They are not ment to degrade you or lecture you. But rather they are preserving our sport for future generations in helping you understand some of the ethecs of hunting.

It sounds like you had a great time in Arizona. Practice, Practice, Practice and may your next time be more productive.
 

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F.Y.I,

"Buddy Hunting" (shooting yours and one for your buddy) is illegal in Arizona. I would be willing to bet that it is illegal in every other state, including California.

Javelina are fun to hunt, yet hard to kill. They will either go down quickly, or you will be chasing them for a long time. Does not seem to be anything in between.

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Spec is right on and this is not the information you want to the anti's to get a hold of. They seem to pull up enough bad press with out the help of individuals publicly posting the fact they were breaking the law and being unethical.

Bobhunter, glad you had a good time. Just learn from you mistakes man...
 
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