lake sonoma

[Fugaloo]

Another senerio,
Archer shoots hog,dog wounds himself on the arrow sticking out of the pig,dog bleeds to death.Happens all the time.
Was someone there to witness the archer shoot into a pack of dogs?
Archer fled seen in fear of Guides w/guns approaching.
If the guide encroaches LS property to recover his hounds,he must to be unarmed.Otherwise he is a poacher.

I am pretty sure he was unarmed. he doesn't carry while on foot. And think about the scenario you describe. While not totally unfeasible, it sounds highly unlikely. I just can't see somebody hitting a pig while being chased by a dog. That would be one fast moving pig. I think the real underlying theme here is unethical behavior. If the scenario played out like you suggest, that is an archer made a clean shot on a pig with no knowledge of the approaching dog, then I would not condemn him. However, every other possibility points toward tragically bad judgment on the part of the archer. Whether the dog was approaching, at the pig, on the pig, near the pig, or any other version that isn't "no dog in sight or sound" the arrow shouldn't have flown. After that bad decision was made, the archer further dishonored all other hunters by not telling the guide that his dog may be injured. I mean, really....what are the chances that the archer didn't see, or hear the dog getting poked if it was the best case scenario of the pig's arrow sticking through and stabbing the dog. Not only that, but I talked to the guide personally, he said there was one small wound on the dog. Which to me sounds like it hit the dog as it passed through the pig. If it were sticking out and the dog bumped it, I would expect not just the initial stab but also a laceration from the dog pulling away as it felt the impact. I just can't imagine two animals coming together like that and then breaking away cleanly along the same direction. I can however picture an arrow coming through the pig and the dog pulling directly away from the arrow resulting in a clean stab wound.

 

[ROBruin]

I truly feel for the guide and the bowhunter who shot the dog is an A-hole. There is no sensible reason for taking the shot that he did, if the facts are what they appear to be.

 

[freezer]

who's the A-hole running dog(s) at lake sonoma was there over the weekend hunting yorty creek area stepped out of my ground blind to stretch my legs heard something running towards me knocked an arrow real quick turned around and here this dog running at me first taught was poor thing seperated from her owner then i notice the neck protector on her then she takes off watched her for 15 minutes she was running in and out thick shrubs till she was out of sight then an hour passed decided to get out of my blind and do a little glassing glassed acrossed the ridge and saw 2 guys with the same dog now. who ever you are know the rules and hope you get caught!

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[asaxon]

And the pig?

ROBruin is right, this has gotten off topic but it is clear,

Various people know the guide in question and have personally spoken with him regarding this one instance of a dog on LS. He apparently was not purposely running dogs on LS.

Nothing is know about the bow hunter in question - lots of speculation and judgement about his behavior.

My question - What happened to the Pig? Was it wounded? Died and had arrow still in it? Or like the hunter, is it "unknown". Some of you who have spoken with the guide should tell us or ask him...