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[MGDeer]

O.K. i did a quick search on the basspro web for steel or copper 12 GA rifled slugs and buck shot for my smooth bore barrel - no luck. Who in blue-blazes makes such a cartridge? Thanks in advance.

 

[solus]

Remington makes them. I have a few. They sell them in packs of 5 i believe

 

[Biskthead]

Federal Premium Trophy Copper makes them as well. P151TC for 3 inch. P152TC for 2 3/4 inch sabot slugs. Not that I have a great amount of experience with them both, but I felt the Federal's grouped better than the Remington Copper Solids.

 

[goldenarrow49]

Sabots are ment to be used in a riffled barrel. I think I have read about a steel slug that can be used in smooth bores but I don't have any experience with them.

 

[MGDeer]

Federal Premium Trophy Copper makes them as well. P151TC for 3 inch. P152TC for 2 3/4 inch sabot slugs. Not that I have a great amount of experience with them both, but I felt the Federal's grouped better than the Remington Copper Solids.

Biskthead, perhaps i should consider purchasing a rifled barrel for my Mossey 500-A...thanks dude.

 

[MGDeer]

Sabots are ment to be used in a riffled barrel. I think I have read about a steel slug that can be used in smooth bores but I don't have any experience with them.

goldenarrow49, there are rifled slugs for smooth bores but they're lead.

 

[ltdann]

I have never found a rifled slug (for smoothbore) that is lead free. I don't believe anyone makes them.

As for buckshot, it's a not a legal method of take for big game, in most places in CA.

Because of the above, most folks in CA go to rifled barrels when deciding to hunt big game with shotguns.

With technological advances in shotgun and barrel design, coupled with modern sabot ammo, you can reach out well past 100 yds (with practice of course). I've personally dropped a buck at 179 yards.

Your grand dads lead pumpkin ball and 35 yards shots are a thing of the past.

 

[Biskthead]

MGDeer, I completely missed the smooth bore part. Sorry about that. I guess I had a case of keyboard fever and pushed the enter button too soon. ltdann convinced me to get a cantilevered rifled barrel for my 870 and it is now by far my favorite firearm I own.

 

[MGDeer]

MGDeer, I completely missed the smooth bore part. Sorry about that. I guess I had a case of keyboard fever and pushed the enter button too soon. ltdann convinced me to get a cantilevered rifled barrel for my 870 and it is now by far my favorite firearm I own.

yep...describe that barrel to me-i don't know a whole anything regarding that barrel, but i do know that with Bruce's response, and me looking it up on DFW, that I am looking at purchasing a rifled slug barrel since my two options are non toxic slugs and the only such critter known to me is the sabot and the sabot requires a rifled barrel.... my Mossberg 500AG gets an upgrade. Gee whiz i wish there is a non toxic rifled slug made.

 

[wmhandy]

This is a good thread for me the noob! I'm learning a lot. I shoot rifled slugs during tactical training. As I gear up to hunt I just assumed I would find the same thing lead free, come on Barnes, get to work!

 

[wmhandy]

Never mind my post below. This slug is all over the internet with "rifled" in the description, but upon closer examination it's obviously not rifled. A user of this slug reports cutting one open to discover NO rifled features, just a flat faced cylinder.


Does this qualify as lead-free in CA?

Winchester® Super-X® Lead-Free Smooth Bore Slug - 12ga 2-3/4" 3/4oz. Zinc Rifled 5/Box
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=WNX12RS15LF

 

[ltdann]

In regards to the Mossberg 500 rifled barrel.... it looks like this http://www.midwayusa.com/product/18...tegral-scope-base-ported?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Interesting, I didn't know that Winchester made that slug for smooth bore's, but it's not currently listed on the Winchester website nor DFW's approved list.

I wonder if it was a Winchester experiment that didn't work out? Probably why it is $7 a box vice the usual $16.

Regardless, the rifled barrel with a good sabot will out shoot any rifled slug any day of the week.

Face it folks, if your making the decision to hunt big game in CA with a shotgun, you're going to have to use lead-free SABOT shells, in a RIFLED Barrel.

One of my regular hunting partners tried using sabots in his 870 turkey gun, he emptied 6 shells (2 reloads) on a standing deer at 40 yards. He couldn't hit it. He ordered the cantilever barrel the next day.

It's like trying to shoot a 30-06 out of your .410. You can do it....but it's not going to work very well.

 

[ltdann]

On a side note...once the CA lead ban starts kicking in, we're going to see a lot of these types of posts. The upshot is that a lot of heirloom guns will be un-useable in CA. They just don't make the ammo or the barrels.

I've been having a helluva time getting 150 grn E-tips in 30-06 since last deer season.

 

[Frenimy]

When you start looking for Barrels take a long hard look at the Hastings barrels. They are by far the best and most accurate barrels for slugs.