Mango Pig

[EvBouret]

Me and Nicolai were at it again this friday night and saturday. We packed up a temporary fly camp to leave in our hunting area. We made a nice a frame tent out of guava logs and a 10x12 tarp. We left a bbq grill, pots, forks/spoons, blankets, groundsheets, some food and some extra bullets all inside of a 5 gallon bucket up there so we dont have to carry anything next time.

We signed into the hunter's check in box and left the truck right before dark. Right as the sun was setting, about a mile or so from our truck me and Nic heard something under some big mango trees, we crept up to the edge of the clearing and could hear it pretty steady about 40-50 yards. It was just too dark to see and we turned our headlamps on at the same time, the pig never ran and kept eating mangos. I could hardly make it out at that distance with my little headlamp but had my gun up just in case. I was looking through my peep and everything lined up with the pig and I could make out my sights, and the pig all at the same time so I fired a shot. The pig dropped in its tracks. My bullet hit right behind the ear and went straight though. We estimated him at about 120-130lbs with 1-1.5" ivory. I still gotta measure them. We cut up the pig and kept going up to where we were going to make camp for the night.

We had one of the best mountain dinners I've ever had that night. Nic had some frozen Halibut from a recent Alaska trip he brought, we had the backstraps from the boar and three big purple sweet potatoes. We put oriental saimin powder on the backstraps and they turned out pretty good. We got to bed around 11am. Nic got up at the crack of dawn and left camp to go get another pig and I opted to stay in bed since I already had a pig down and didn't need another. Nic got back to camp around 9am and had seen a small 20lb pig that never gave him a shot, and another larger pig blew to the side of the trail at him at the same time. We hung out drank some coffee and cooked breakfast and hiked up the ditchbank to our new campsite. We got there and built a pretty solid a frame out of straight guava saplings stretched our tarp over it and built a fire pit. We left all kinds of supplies up there that we won't have to bring next time. We cleared the area and planted a bunch of ti leaf, mango and avocado. We threw out about 50 avo seeds. We are hoping that in 10 years the bigger avos and mangos will crowd out the small bushy plants underneath and make a nice open area suitable for stillhunting and with lots of fruit for the pigs at the same time. The area is already so covered in weeds that we will not be making any negative impact. And all the trees we were planting are already up there just in small numbers. The ti leaf has numerable uses, as plates, cooking containers and bedding. We hiked out around 4 and got to the car around 6.

This area is one of the very few areas in our part of the island that is suitable for stillhunting and we are going to take advantage of that!

My friends went with the dogs about 2 miles from us in a large river valley and caught two giant boars. They were both just under 3" ivorys, one was about 200lbs. Heres some pics for you guys.

 

[MJB]

Nice!!!!!!

 

[One Track]

Classic. Nice shelter. You're having too much fun out there in the jungle. Shouldn't you be chasing women?

 

[Coues]

That's sounds awesome.

Is that Ti leaf related to Thai Sticks? LOL!

 

[EvBouret]

Ive already got my women chased down and hog tied. We've been together over a year...and best thing is she will eat my pork!!! (no pun intended)

The ti leaf is what the backstrap is sitting on in the picture. It's pronounced 'tee'

 

[Coues]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Aug 27 2007, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Ive already got my women chased down and hog tied. We've been together over a year...and best thing is she will eat my pork!!! (no pun intended)

The ti leaf is what the backstrap is sitting on in the picture. It's pronounced 'tee'[/b]

 

[beastslayer]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Aug 26 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

...and three big purple sweet potatoes.[/b]

Can you still manage to sleep with those rear explosions from eating these stuff?

With all the planting you made, you should already have to right to have the place titled to your names.

Anyway, congrats for having too much fun. Nice place for a regular hunt for yourselves in that piece of paradise. So I presume you're not thinking of going back to 'ol CA soon.

The ti-leaf looks like taro palm. The name scapes me now but there is root crop with similar leaves which is edible -- actually quite good and a childhood favorite when we boil with a pinch of salt.

Are the mosquitoes not a problem with those open tarp? Perhaps mainlanders would not understand it, but the regular tents here, without those tarps, are no match for tropical rains. And too hot inside even on evenings during summer.

 

[EvBouret]

They dont give me any digestive problems at all. The taro plant grows in water or real wet soil and was big heart shaped leaves with a potato-like root. The ti leaf grows in drier soil and has long oval leafs with a thick rib that runs down the center of the leaf. Taro is great, pounded into poi, or baked like any kind of potato.

The mosquitoes dont bother me too much, we just sleep directly under the tarp and they dont get too bad at night. They are much much worse during the day. I guess I could throw my small tent minus the fly to have mosquito free comfort. But yeah, tents get really really hot inside here because its usually so muggy and humid outside.

 

[baboltin]

haha thats great how ever you can kill them

 

[Uncle Ji]

AH, to be young and single... I remember those daze. I want to drive my truck over to Kaua'i via Super Ferry but looks like a few are trying their best to prevent the ferry from ever getting there (I hate renting cars). My wife has alot of family in Kapa'a and Lihue both her parents were born and raised there, and a few are hunters so would be nice to hook up. Ev, i'll say it again, I love your choice in firearm a 30/30 levergun with receiver peep sight, don't need a 300 Mamajama Magnum fo' pop pigs 30/30 will continue to get the job done. My neighbor here on Maui shot a 400+ pound boar with his 30/30. I just picked up a 1946 vintage Marlin 36D levergun and added a Williams 5D peep sight, can't wait to get her to the range and sighted in with my 150 cast bullet loads. Keep up the picture posts for us old futs that don't get out as often as in their youth, I can relive my adventures thru you guys. Mahalo a nui loa!

 

[EvBouret]

People coming over here to surf our spots, hunt our mountains and pillage our reefs is the exact reason I am opposed to the superferry. Nothing against you Ji, you seem like a really nice guy and I would personally tour you through our hunting trails...But not if you came on that boat. The greatest thing about our island is that it's semi isolated (this is changing fast) with healthy reefs, uncrowded surf and not too many hunters in one area, the superferry will do its best to change that. Homeless starting tent cities, iceheads driving over and loading their vans with stolen crap. Everyone on this island has learned to trust their neighbors. We dont lock our doors, I dont lock my car, I leave surfboards lying in my yard. I dont know, I could vent for a while on the subject but there's no point. 3 of my friends got arrested on federal charges for paddling their surfboards out and blocking the entrance to the harbor. I would have been there with them too if I didn't have to work.

30-30 knocks them flat if you hit em right. No doubt...and my Williams 5d is awesome

 

[Uncle Ji]

I have friends and family on Kaua'i that goes back for generations and I have been visiting Kaua'i way before you and many of the protesters were even born. Do you have any more right to hunt , surf, fish Kaua'i than me? I have plenty enough connections on Kaua'i to do all the fishing, hunting, and surfing I like with no problems from the Kaua'i locals. Once while surfing Hanalei Bay there were 2 Haole (white) guys in the line up but further out. Out paddles Mr. Kinimaka (self proclaimed surfing ambassador of Kaua'i) goes right past me straight to the first Haole guy and the Haole guy smiles and says good morning just as Mr. Kinimaka false cracks him right in the face and yells at the 2 guys along with racist words to get of of the water this is his spot, locals only! The guys paddle in one with his nose bleeding profusely then Mr. Kinimaka paddles up and says I can stay because I'm local, and smiles. Do you approve of that kind of behavior? Do Big Island folks have the right to chase you out of the Waiakea Forest Reserve because you are not a Big Island native? Should good people like Doccherry be chased off the islands because he is not from here and he hunts and fishes "OUR" spots? I certainly don't think so. The lack of Aloha of a vocal few amazes me sometimes. Maybe i'm an old fut raised in the days when Aloha meant something. I watched the news of the ferry's arrival in Kaua'i and saw the vandalism being done to cars of other locals denting the sheet metal and flattening tires, no excuse for this. Those who got arrested deserved it, there are peaceful ways to protest. There was a local radio talk show on the night of the Nawiliwili ferry fiasco and the host (don't recall the name of show) asked callers from Kaua'i to call in to voice their opinion on the Super Ferry, I listened for about 20 minutes as i drove but in those 20 minutes and the half hour before I turned on the radio (according to the host) there were NO anti ferry calls, all calls from local Kaua'i residents were very pro Super Ferry and they were very upset at the vocal few protesters and they stated these protesters did not represent the Kaua'i people in general. They stated that the ferry is only good for the stagnant economy of Kaua'i as well as letting relatives and relocated Kaua'ians visit family economically. Every island has their local population of homeless as well as "ice" users usually in areas with high unemployment (Lana'i & Hilo for example). The ferry would stimulate the economy which would help decrease "ice" use if anything as well as create jobs from the stimulated economy. With maybe the exception of Oahu every island in Hawaii is a isolated community with it's special pristine spots. Should we ban outsiders from other islands and make it locals only? We must have a single standard to be fair and reflect the aloha spirit. I will continue to show aloha to ALL who come to Hawaii regardless of race, color, religion, malihini and kama'aina alike. I will not be surprised when many of these protesters will be using the Super Ferry after the EIS is completed and all the smoke has cleared, not very dedicated to the cause. I do think that the ferry was rushed without getting a EIS first but that's another issue.

 

[ducslayer]

 

[EvBouret]

I guess I got my point across wrong. I dont mean to say that haoles, locals or whatever can't come hunt, fish or surf our spots. I'm just opposed to the idea of them loading their car full of people, surfboards, fishing poles and coming to Kauai for an undetermined period of time. There's no getting around it, and the superferry WILL be here eventually. It sounds like you haven't been here in a few years, the lineups are as crowded as Oahu, Titus doesn't punch people anymore...he actually runs a surf school teaching tourists and sketchy haoles how to crowd his lineups even further. In the last five years Kauai has changed dramatically. I dont feel like I have more of a right, but i love my 'land' just as much as any Hawaiian loves their 'aina', and it is sad to see how it is changing. Even in my relatively short life I can see the impact of all the changes going on. I just don't think the superferry will be a positive change for Kauai residents.

I don't want to start some personal battle with you...but why can't people just catch a plane?

For the record...my friends that got arrested were blocking the channel on surfboards and not vandalizing cars...not that it matters

 

[Uncle Ji]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Sep 4 2007, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I guess I got my point across wrong. I dont mean to say that haoles, locals or whatever can't come hunt, fish or surf our spots. I'm just opposed to the idea of them loading their car full of people, surfboards, fishing poles and coming to Kauai for an undetermined period of time. There's no getting around it, and the superferry WILL be here eventually. It sounds like you haven't been here in a few years, the lineups are as crowded as Oahu, Titus doesn't punch people anymore...he actually runs a surf school teaching tourists and sketchy haoles how to crowd his lineups even further. In the last five years Kauai has changed dramatically. I dont feel like I have more of a right, but i love my 'land' just as much as any Hawaiian loves their 'aina', and it is sad to see how it is changing. Even in my relatively short life I can see the impact of all the changes going on. I just don't think the superferry will be a positive change for Kauai residents.

I don't want to start some personal battle with you...but why can't people just catch a plane?

For the record...my friends that got arrested were blocking the channel on surfboards and not vandalizing cars...not that it matters[/b]

When I was young like you I was very protective of "my turf" and did not take kindly to outsiders encroaching "my" spots. Over the years I have become older and hopefully wiser with a more balanced outlook. Growth and progress can be controlled but rarely stopped especially in such a popular place like Hawaii. I know I most likely will have to retire somewhere on the mainland due to being priced right out of the lands I grew up on. I cannot even afford the property tax on my father's land that he paid $30,000 for back in the early 60s. I gave up surfing altogether back in the 80s due to overcrowding of Oahu surf spots but got back into it when discovering Maui still had it's uncrowded spots back in the early 90 when I moved here. Now the population here has doubled and the surf lineup has gotten crowded again. What causes crowding are mainlanders moving here and it drives these land prices up as these rich mainlanders discovering Hawaii, wanting a piece of paradise, and creating a demand for land which skyrockets the price. The superferry will have no effect on mainlanders coming to Hawaii and buying up real estate, the superferry will be used almost exclusively by local people wanting to visit relatives and friends on neighbor islands. Many will argue that cheap jet travel to the islands was the worse thing to happen to Hawaii as far as local people are concerned making access easy for discovery and exploitation. I look forward not having to deal with the BS of the airport, and renting a car when visiting friends and family whereas tourist love staying in hotels and renting nice new cars while on vacation. Most rental agencies don't even have 4x4 vehicles to rent for shoreline or mountain access to more remote areas. I don't like to see any kind of fighting but especially locals turning against locals, it's just not right.

 

[Nic Barca]

God, not another superferry discussion... No, I'm kidding. The whole thing was too shady from the beginning. I'll second what evan said about Kauai changing in the last five years (...although I guess all of Hawaii has). I guess people were at their breaking point. All the people I know and talk to are either opposed to it or get a good laugh at what happened monday night (sunday night sounded bad but I wasn't there). We all know it will eventually get established on Kauai. I was down there on Monday night, just because I thought it was a moment in history I shouldn't miss. Brah, the cops were getting roudy. It was nutz. Two ...no, three of my friends, the same as Evan's, got arrested. Another got grabbed by a police man when he came in and twisted away before jumping off the breakwall into the rocks like a crazy idiot. The cop hurt my friend's rist (well, I shouldn't say the cop did) but he got some scratches from the rocks and got away. Crazy stuff went down that night. I remember some kook threw a coconut at the guys waiting to get on the ferry. Had swat teams and national guard and all the swat guys were jonesing for some action too with their faces covered up and assault weapons in hand.

Your right uncle Ji. We are territorial. Especially the young guys from island to island, or even a side of the island.

Hey, but this hunting trip was good fun. Best camp dinner I ever had. But every time I ran into pigs, they would wind me and blow before I could even see them.

 

[Muggs]

Sorry,

I didn't see this topic until now. I agree w/ Uncle about the Super Ferry. The ones that are "protecting our turf" are the first to go to another island and think nothing of hunting or fishing there.

 

[Nic Barca]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Muggs @ Oct 24 2007, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Sorry,

I didn't see this topic until now. I agree w/ Uncle about the Super Ferry. The ones that are "protecting our turf" are the first to go to another island and think nothing of hunting or fishing there.[/b]

Half of what you wrote is true, the other half is to each their own. The major problem I see with the superferry in reguards to natural resources is that they are opening up the resources of the outer islands to the crowds of Oahu at a time in history when those resources are not even sustainably managed from the pressures exherted simply from the people on those islands. This is a much larger issue than the ferry, but the ferry is just going to make it worse and there's nothing the company can do about it. It's DLNR and the public's problem. But what is going to happen when fishermen start grabbing as much opihi as they can or load up their coolers with reef fish to help pay for their trip? Look at how on the first voyage, people grabbed a truckload of stones from Maui. I laugh at this; "WHAT, OAHU NO GET ROCKS?" (Thos ewho don't speak hawaii pidgeon might not understand that) Unfortunately I only see this sort of stuff being encouraged and not discouraged. What about Maile? I'ld gripe about the hunting too, but the way I see it, we need more hunters on the outer islands. The DLNR needs to step up their bag limits on fish and ban sale of opihi, if they haven't already. This isn't the age of commercial fishing anymore. 2 uhu is a lot for one day, yet there isn't even a bag limit. ...there should be a slot limit but there isn't anything except a minimum size. Who needs to catch twenty 10 inch papio? Three should be plenty. We need to catch less today so that we can sutainabl;y catch even more in the future. This isn't the 1940s either. We used to travel but boat before the planes but now there are huge risks. The Coqui frog outbreak in Lawai on Kauai took a lot of money and effort to control and is only now at the verge of possible eradication. Little red fire ants could cripple our agricultural industry. These are pests which are spread by automobiles regularly. You leeve crums in your car and you have ants! You grab a roled up tarp from your yard and toss it into the back of your truck and you could be transporting coqui to places they are not yet at. Coqui will badly damage the tourism industry. Nobody wants to stay in a noisy hotel. Not to mention the damage those two pests will do to remaining native ecosystems if they spread. Now you might be thinking "Cars go back and forth all the time on young brothers." But the reality is that YB is a much more hostile environment. Most people cleen their cars before they ship them. Everything is fairly clean. And what goes into containers might even get baked in the sun if it's a sunny day. The dangers are real. I say: Good for those arrogant bussinessmen and those who put coorperate interests ahead of the best interests of the outer island communities. It was arrogance, ignorance and short mindedness which lead to this dillemma. All the protesters rose up because it seemed like a crisis; it was hear, looming at our doorstep, a huge threat to our way of life. Good for Hawaii if the ferry goes out of bussiness. Were they going to check every car with a peanut butter bait for fire ants? NO. Did they donate any money to the islands' Invasive Species Commitees; the ones who have the job eradicating introduced pests? ...I don't think they did, but I should check because I know they were mitigating with them.

Was it worth it? was the millions in agricultural losses and tourism revenue, the rape of resources, and increase in all the problems associated with urbanization worth it? If whales are your piece of pie, was it worth it when humpback whales die? Was it worth your convenience? This is Oahu's toy. It seemed like a good idea at first but WOW, I'm not going to spend $600 to $1000 round trip to go to Big Island from Kauai. I'ld rather just catch a plane and stay with friends. It's cheep and simple. A week long fishing & hunting vacation is another deal all together. It's okay though because I don't think the ferry will be an economic success anyway and I never did. FTR, it was an enormous blunder on the part of bussinessmen and politicians. All the wrong strategic choices. You need to play things by the book in this day and age. Hawaii is a very hostile environment right now for bussiness, environment, and for just being a resident but the greatest lessons are learned from the hardest times. Too bad so much irreperable damage must be done along the way.

Please don't egg me on anymore. Next thing you know I'll be lecturing on how big box stores are bad in the long term. Think of the long term.

 

[Huntr Pat]

Nic good job, look like a hippy now.

 

[Nic Barca]

I am a hippy. ...except I have short hair and never smoked pot. I'm a conservationist, environmentalists, and sustainability enthusiest all in one.

I focus in three areas on interest:
Hawaiian Native Forestry
Hawaii Nearshore Fisheries Management
Non-native forest improvement.

And I'll boast to be highly educated in each field.