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[huntducks]

Hey dipp/jk

Just something how you and BS would just trespass on another mans property and not bat a eye well not until you got poped then you would be on your knees begging please don't call the law, like I said guys like you give us all bad names in your disreguard for others.

Yes I did understand the animal was shot on one side and ran to the other, I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHO IS BRAKING THE LAW.

I laugh when you make the statement how would he ever know I was there I would drag it back and nobody would ever know ya right, i'll bet you say same when your shoplifting.

Your right I don't want some kid climbing over my back fence, because when he falls in my pool and drowns or brakes a leg or decides to help himself to something, gee who will be at fault not him, I will and his parents will have there hands out.

 

[LeeChul]

Huntducks,
I'm sorry this is so personal to you. I may hunt in California, but I'm not a Californian, and it's because of Californians like you that I would never want to be. You seem so angry, what happened? Did someone drop you as a child? -Sorry... Don't worry about me, I haven't broken any trespassing laws in California, and I'll be gone soon.

"Love your enemy as your neighbor - love your neighbor as your brother." No wonder there is so much crime here... Some of you all don't love your neighbors... Makes me wonder how you treat your brother. Kane didn't like his so he just killed him. Should we expect the same from you?

"I'll bet all 3 of you put together aint killed a handfull of game and just looking at your replys your so damn game hungry it has blinded you to what is right and wrong and it's flat wrong to trespess on another man's property I don't care how you try to justify it." -That's harsh, but... unfortunately not true...

"You 3 dudes aint going to like what I have to say but someone needs to tell you, guys like you are the reason it's hard to get permission to access PP your the ones a farmer or rancher always talk about, like this guy just jumped over my fence and walked right through or he walked right into MY PLACE and dragged his dead pig or deer out what ever, nothing would pi$$ me off more then to have some yahoo trespass across my property, you 3 represent what I call the typical Kalifornia hunter you don't give a damn about others just yourself, but damn you make it hard for us the legal hunter to fallow."
- So am I a dude or a yahoo? Sometimes I do yahoo searches...

Anyways, I'm sorry if you own a bunch of land and people sneek onto it to hunt, ultimately "God's animals," it's not fare...but sometimes it happens. In the case that we origionally began discussing on this thread... I think that if I was not going to recover it, I'd stay there until the Fish and Game Warden came and picked it up to feed the hungry.

Final point, I would never let some PETA type bastard land owner get the best of me.

Cheers all

 

[Coondog]

Good points LeeChul...

Here is a scenario for you huntducks... You are on prime piece of private land (or public I guess) hunting elk. You look up and there stands the biggest elk you have ever seen, easily making the books. This is the one elk you have been hunting for all of your life. You shoot (and I know that this would NEVER happen to you) but hit him a little behind and the elk runs off. After a thick blood trail you see the monster laying about 20 yds. on the other side of the fence. Your telling me that you let the monster lay and waste and you just call it a day! BS!! In the heat of the moment with all of the adrenaline rushing through you, you grab him and bring him back over and start showing him off... Don't try to tell me otherwise because I know better... I must be the worst person in the world for wanting to get that trophy... I don't know how I live with myself sometimes!!!!

 

[tony270]

huntducks:

In my opinion your analogy comparing a range trespass to home invasion or a home burglary is ridiculous. In the Grate State of California you can’t even legally shoot someone after they have invaded your home. We can only use deadly force if your life or someone else’s is in immediate danger. And someone running away or escaping out of a window doesn’t qualify.

I would never hunt with someone like you anyway, and furthermore, I hunt alone. So whatever I do out on the range, only God knows. Oh, unless you’re the peeking type, from what you have stated you seem like the peeking type of guy to me. Are you out on the range looking for someone crossing your fence when you should be out hunting game? I think you would rather get off looking for fence hoppers. And just for record, I learned not take property that didn’t belong to me when I was a toddler.

Everyone has an opinion and that’s all I wanted to state. I wont’ respond to anymore of your insults, chow.

P.S.
I won’t let land that is not legally posted stop me from getting game that I shot while hunting legally out on the range.

 

[huntducks]

First off I never said a thing about compairing this to a home invasion or a burglary you best reread my posts

Second T270 if you say i'm insulting you for braking the law you have a problem.

I'm not angry at anyone but when you know your wrong in a dabate you try to turn it personal like gee you must have been dropped on your head as a child or your a very angry person tells me you have no leg to stand on for your actions your just trying to justify it and convince anyone it the right thing to do, your even trying to convince yourself.

There is nothing personal to me, your going to do what you do and i'm going to do what I do i'm just trying to show you what is wrong with how your doing it simple as that and your actions reflect upon me.

T270 you best find out what Ca. trespass laws are if it's fenced or under cultivation even if it's not fenced it's considered private if it not fenced just open wild land it needs to have so many signs per mi, then if your hunting it you and everyone in your party needs written permision it has been this way for at least 20 years and why because hunters and bad guys have abused it, Ca. trespass laws used to be real simple if it was not posted it was open to hunt you did not need written permision.

Coondog

That is a tuff call it would depend what state I was in, but a elk is not a animal you drag 20 feet or 20 yards so I would look for the landowner but I would have covered my bases first and if nothing else would have found out who and where the landowner lived in cases this happened.

F350 you got the right attitude on this one to bad other don't see it your way.

 

[tony270]

I said that was my last post but........

Look, in the big scheme of things this is a very small. The bail is only $270.00 for hunting trespass. I would like the law changed to mimic other states, the ones that allow retrieval of downed game within reasonable distance from a fence line. I think we have to many laws anyway. If enough people ignored stupid laws maybe things would change. But you know sheep the syndrome pops up.

2016* Hunting trespass on private property $100 $170 $270

http://www.saccourt.com/criminal/bailsch/m...l/fandgcode.asp

 

[F350]

I am so glad that this thread has provoked such debate.
Hopefully, a lot of hunters have learned from it. As for me... I've learned a lot about who NOT to hunt with.

Personally, I have only hunted with one complete knucklehead and never will again.

You have to ask yourself... Is this worth losing my truck, my guns, my money, and my freedom?

Trust me ladies & gents, It can and will happen. Maybe when it does happen to one of us here, some of you will read the post and THEN take it a little more serious.

And again, what about the impression we make on the rest of the world?
Haven't we already lost enough in the way of places to Hunt and shoot?