Pig Hunting Ranch

[BLASTMASTER]

I came across something interesting that someone here may want to followup on. There's a 240ac parcel being sold at auction by San Benito County, for taxes. It's through bid4assets.com on March first. No big deal, but it looks like it was/is part of the Hennagan Ranch. And I think that may be the Hennagan Ranch that guides for pigs. This could be an opertunity for someone to get some private pig hunting land cheep! If there's anyone in the local area, they could research this out, and give someone here some reports, if there's anyone interested. It would be me, but my ex-wife has my property buying money all frozen for about another 2 months.

 

[PIGIG]

mybe we could get enough JHOer's to go in and have our own CO-op

 

[pigdream]

I'm in.

 

[hogshot]

I would absolutely go in on it. However, it is a tricky deal to get all of the dollars lined up from different people. If 10 guys go in on it, and you get it for 40,000 and 3 back out it could really screw things up. Also, who is going to put their name on the hook, because that person would be liable. Anyhow, even if 20 guys go in on it it wouldn't get to much pressure. But some ground rules would have to be established on how the property was hunted and maintained. And improvements, who will pay for those? There are certainly going to be times when some can't spend the money. And taxes? It sounds complicated, but maybe we should take a straw poll to see who wants to drop a grand to get things started. if we get 25 guys, then we bid up to $25,000 unless someone wants to purchase multiple shares at 1000 a piece. How about this:


HOG VALLEY RANCH
$1000 PER SHARE

I suppose if there are 25 guys and it goes for 20 grand then we just divide it up.
So what does everyone think? I mean really, it would cost less than an out of state hunting trip and we would own it.
It could be quite simple. We write up some bylaws as far as taxes go and how the land would be used i.e. who can hunt on the property, and how we collect for taxes, have everone sign it and it becomes law.
Sounds like fun, you know, a grown up boys club.
Jason

 

[BLASTMASTER]

I don't know what to tell you, but I went on the auction site this morning, and it looks like San Benito County pulled their properties off the auction calendar. Maybe they will put them back on, at a later date, I don't know. Anyway, this idea of a joint venture could be a good idea. That particular parcel was CHEEP. I think the minimum bid was about $1600, and the county had the assessed value at about $11,000.

Buying something like this would take alot more effort than just plopping some cash down. Someone is going to have to go to the county and get the parcel map, and try and find the place. Then someone is going to have to verify there is good habitat, and basically make sure it's what the group would want. Then consider how big it is. 240 acres is really not that big. I can only relate it to my parents 46 acres, where I hunt deer and turkeys. I'm the only one hunting there, and if there was just one more hunter, it would be too many. I think the parcel itself, and not just the size, will dictate the maximum capacity, and can only be determined on a case by case basis, through research. I would think it would have to start with a commitee of individuals, who are willing and ABLE to do the research first, and then open it up. From research, the committee could determine how many shares there would be.

There is a 160ac parcel being sold about 20 miles from Paso Robles. I've compared the parcel map to topo and satilite maps, and it's right on a dark spot on that California pig harvest map. There's a spring, dirt road access, and from what I can tell, prime pig land. It's on live auction in March, and I may be able to scrape up enough for a down payment, until my savings account is unfrozen. I wrote the owner for permission to hunt, in order to evaluate the parcel, prior to the sale. The minimum bid is $100/acre. I will have spent lots of time and money in research, before I decide to bid, and that's what it will take for any joint venture here. If I think it's a good deal, and can't come up with the $, then I'll post details in the for sale section, in case someone else here wants to go for it.

 

[Hogfever]

I'm in

We could set it up as an LLC. Might be somethin to think about

 

[Speckmisser]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>

I will have spent lots of time and money in research, before I decide to bid, and that's what it will take for any joint venture here. If I think it's a good deal, and can't come up with the $, then I'll post details in the for sale section, in case someone else here wants to go for it.[/b]

Hey Blastmaster,

That's pretty cool of you. Keep us posted. Paso Robles is a hefty drive, but could be well worth it for the pig hunting. I've been itching to get some property, and these tax auctions COULD be a good deal.

Of course you have to look at what's being sold. There's usually a reason these folks let the property go. Some of that stuff over in Griswold Hills is straight up and down, dry as hell, and the water source is seriously polluted by the runoff from the New Idria mine.

That property over by Hollister is also an old mining claim, which could also mean that whatever water is available has been tainted by mercury and mining refuse. I don't know about that one, because the map provided was too small for me to read.

A lot of research is involved.

For you guys seriously thinking about a hunting "co-op", you should talk to some of the duck club owners to see what they went through getting the property, selling shares, and managing members.

 

[Marty]

And don't be suprised when auction property drops off the list. If there is any value to the land, it will be picked up out of lein by other buyers. All they have to do is contact the land/property owner and sign a contract to pay off the tax lein for the property deed.

 

[BLASTMASTER]

Just to throw the big tease...
Those are oaks over grassland. The spring is south of the dirt road intersection.

 

[pbrdog]

If I were a pig, that's where I'd go.

 

[Hogfever]

You're killing me Blastmaster

 

[PIGIG]

Let’s not forget that there is a lot of land out there for sale because of taxes, BLM and other agencies for next to nothing. Just because 1 parcel came into view and disappeared does not mean we still can not peruse the idea. If there was 20 guys with 5K each we could buy a major piece of land that has it all.

I know I would have my share for an opportunity like this

 

[dreaminhogs]

Anyone have a napkin handy I need to clean up the drool on my shirt.

 

[oneclearshot]

There's a lot of Sound Thinking being stated and a venture of this type certainly doesn't want to be jumped into too quickly....but I'd be VERY interested in "Throwing In" with anybody else who thinks this could be a benefit and glad to help with some of the leg-work, both in the field and administratively! You guys that are up in that area, keep the rest of us posted.

 

[BLASTMASTER]

To update on the 160 acres that is in the picture above,
WHOO! WHOO! I just got permission from the owner to hunt it, for one day, 2/27, in order to evaluate piggy huntability!

I got part of a settlement, from my divorce, coming in as early as the end of the month. If so, and this place hunts well, I'll be in the running!

I'm having a much better week, than last week!

 

[bighorn67]

How much of a kick in are we talking about?

Dave

 

[Speckmisser]

Blastmaster,

It sounds like you might just be on the inside track to owning your own hog hunting paradise!

If so... wanna be my friend?

 

[Hogfever]

Blast let us know what you find out. I think there are more than a few hunters on here that might be interested in a joint venture, me being one. Best of luck, hope you get one

 

[theseacow]

crapola.... i need more money.


Ill pay the buyer/owner for hunting rights

-theseacow

 

[Rick]

I don't want to rain on the parade, but there are only 52 weekends a year. A 240 acre piece is probably not big enough. Using the aerial photo above as an example, there is not enough brush to hold pigs if they were hunted all the time. It may be great for a guy or even a half dozen guys who weren't there every weekend shooting.) The pig hunting would then become a matter of catching them when they are passing through.

The best plan is to form a limited partnership or corporation first, and then go find a suitable piece of property, or even one to lease the hunting rights. That way you would know how big a place to look for, since I think most guys here are going to want to go several times a year. The cost may end being more like a few thousand each, or a thousand a year each to lease a good place. (I would consider it myself at that price, if you could camp, shoot varmints and hunt quail as well as pigs! (I used to have such a deal for about $700 a year until the rancher passed away and his wife sold off most of the land. Two hogs a year and year-round access to 25,000 acres - man, I miss those days.)