Pig Hunting Ranch

[BLASTMASTER]

To tell you all the truth, I started looking for me. I want someplace I can depend on being there, through my retirement. I want to put up a remote cabin, and vacation there with the family. I hope this is the place, and I hope I can get it.

I am selfish! As long as I have a chance to get it, I'm keeping the details to myself.

But I'm not too selfish. If I can't get it, will I share the info. If I do get it, I will probably let a limited number of people hunt there, in exchange for a very small fee for some habitat improvements, and property improvement expenses. And for those with limited funds, they could help work on the improvements, maybe.

If you're looking for a joint venture, start planning it; just don't plan it around this pig haven, it's mine!

 

[boarbuster]

rick

the club you used to be a member of where was it located? i think i know the one your talking about

 

[mjohns2]

Originally posted by Rick@Feb 5 2004, 03:42 PM
I don't want to rain on the parade, but there are only 52 weekends a year. A 240 acre piece is probably not big enough. Using the aerial photo above as an example, there is not enough brush to hold pigs if they were hunted all the time. It may be great for a guy or even a half dozen guys who weren't there every weekend shooting.) The pig hunting would then become a matter of catching them when they are passing through.

The best plan is to form a limited partnership or corporation first, and then go find a suitable piece of property, or even one to lease the hunting rights. That way you would know how big a place to look for, since I think most guys here are going to want to go several times a year. The cost may end being more like a few thousand each, or a thousand a year each to lease a good place. (I would consider it myself at that price, if you could camp, shoot varmints and hunt quail as well as pigs! (I used to have such a deal for about $700 a year until the rancher passed away and his wife sold off most of the land. Two hogs a year and year-round access to 25,000 acres - man, I miss those days.)

Rick is right.... to avoid "problems" and limit liability there should be a corporation established first.... If you guys are serious let me know. I'm in.

 

[Rick]

Ours was not a formal club, just a small group of guys who knew each other. It did grow beyond that a little, and that did create a few problems. Nothing major, but it just wasn't the same as it was when it was just the 5 or 6 orginal guys. We left trailers up there, with some canned food and our hunting clothes. Then all we had to do was bring our perishable food, drinks, guns and ammo. Some guy sleft their ATVs there. A couple of times, I drove right there from work in a suit!

It was in the Parkfield area, and the hunting was great!

 

[sportyg]

Rick that sounds great what happen ???

 

[phaseley]

Hey Blastmaster-
I'll be at the same auction going after another property. Beware of access and legality of parcel. If you just want to hunt it, legality of parcel is no problem. Only if you want to build. Or if you need to sue for access. I don't think you can do it if the parcel was not legally created. Just because there is a road that leads to your property doesn't mean YOU can use it. Might want to querry the owner regarding legal access. Though there are remidies for land-locked property in CA, it usually involves lawyers and lawyers bills. Land lawyers usually start at 200-300 per hour. Adds up fast, but might be worth it if it is a nice property with potential. A lot of the parcels at this particular acution have similar "issues". Good luck on your hunt.
-Greg

 

[Bruz]

I too am seeking the same as you all are...something to look out for at auctions, if a property makes it to auction in a good area (I am a real estate broker in the Paso Robles area, Paso is a good area) than there is probably something wrong with it. Good deals do come up but seldom in auctions.

I have had people come to list a property with me that they bought through an auction because they could not afford the payments...come to find out the lien they were paying off or the taxes they were bringing current were not the only liens on the property. As mentioned some properties are land-locked, or there are lot line problems or other "clouds" on the title.

When you buy through an auction you have no-one looking out for you so be careful out there!

 

[Rick]

sportyg - Sorry it took so long to notice your question! The rancher had an aneurism and died a few months after it was found. His widow sold off most of the property, made a couple million off of it and is worried about someone getting hurt and suing her now. Reasonable worry nowadays, I guess.

 

[BLASTMASTER]

Ok, I went to check out the 160ac, and it was way too wet. I didn't want to pull a Speckmisser getting in there. Anyway I am not going to be able to bid on it, so here is some info if anyone wants to give it a go.
It's listed as item #42 on the landauction.com website, for March 7, 2004.
Rough boundaries are: 35.8335749 on the north, 35.8188535 on the south, -120.44049 on the west, and -120.43574 on the east.
I hope this works out good for someone here. It could be a good hunting spot for somebody, but you should visit it first.

 

[sdbowyer]

Blastmaster,

Does that mean you drove right up to the parcel and it had road access to it??

 

[Speckmisser]

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Argghhh!

 

[fpscabs]

I think this might be worth exploring. Whether or not for these parcels or some other parcel. Guess we need to figure a head count, some basic guidelines, if doing a corporation, then something like each share is worth $X/share which gives the holder certain rights, what happens if someone wants out, guests, amount of reasonable pressure, improvements (some cement slabs for trailer/rv, eletric?, phone?, storage shed/meathouse, waterclosets, even habitat improvements [planting crops, browse, well] etc...) and most important, what about potential conflicts of members. I would imagine we could come up with reasonable plan.

Just to toss some more thoughts, we might get a head count, figure out how much land is needed, land potential, access, zoning and other crap. Might be better to put the cart behind the horse and plan this out. If everyone is serious, I know I am, and has the abiltiy to be a part [I think I could], this could be really cool

Personally, I have my two boys coming of hunting age and others will have their family as well, add that to 'guests' and other members, it might be a tad crowded or over hunted. There might be a land locked piece of BLM that a small parcel could be the gateway to enter, so we wouldn't need as big of a place.

my

Incorporation is not too hard. Besides the boiler-plate By-laws and Articles, the topics I touched upon above would need to be addressed.

 

[BLASTMASTER]

Originally posted by sdbowyer@Feb 23 2004, 09:07 AM
Blastmaster,

Does that mean you drove right up to the parcel and it had road access to it??

NO
It was too wet to go down the several miles of un-named dirt road, to get to the parcel. It is too far from pavement to hike in. It would be easy to find, though, because the topo maps line-up well with the aerial photos, and street maps. I had printed up pics of the maps with way-points, but the closest I could get was pavement, miles away. If anyone is willing to try, PM me, and I'll fax you my marked maps.

 

[premier]

Has anybody attended Auctionland today or happend to know: How much did they bid for this 160 arces? I was not able to be there beacuse of eye surgery. Thanks.

 

[BLASTMASTER]

I went to bid on a couple other places (outbid, rats), and found out that the 160ac was surounded by one property owner, who is refusing access. That's part of why I was going to visit it. It sold, even still, for $175k.

I quickly learned that the farther away the auction site is from the property, the better the deal. Much of the land sold high, on parcels in so/central CA, but the out of state, and far north went pretty reasonably. Makes sense; if you can see that the land is what you want, and the auction is close by, then you'll show up and bid, but for example, if you live on the Oregon border, and a 2ac lot is available in your area that you could buy locally for $10k, you may not be in a hurry to travel down to SoCal on the chance you can get it cheaper.

Research is the key to this kind of thing, oh yeah, and having the money to back it up too.

And, the search goes on...

 

[premier]

Thanks for the info.