Pigs.....

[huntingbret]

I didn't get a chance to go with my brother to Pine Flat today and thought I'd do him and myself a favor by asking a simple/not so simple question. But first, my brother did not run into any pigs today. He did, however, run into some fresh rootings and tracks. Now here are our question......Do pigs return to their rooting area after spending the morning, or the night rooting it? Would it be worthwhile to spend 3-4 hours during the morning or evening waiting for them to return?

 

[Flatbroke]

Go into the chat room and I will try to help with your questions.

 

[Flatbroke]

I waited for an hour and a half but no Bret.

 

[huntingbret]

Flatbroke, with an avatar like that, I'm afraid to look at you....even talk to you on the chat lines. Scary! I will simply wait for others to respond.

 

[Flatbroke]

c'est la vie, just trying to aid a neophyte out.

 

[Live2hunt]

While the pigs are singing good night out of the afternoon sun, try to find where their tracks disappear into. It may be some thick brush, or under the fence into private land if you're hunting near private boundary. Then in the evening, setup at a point where you have the best view of the brush edges or the fence line. If it's a private boundary fence that they went under, the chance of them coming back across may not be very high. If it's a brush patch, they will come back out somewhere near where they went in.



L2H

 

[tracker13]

BAD MOVE NEOPHYTE?

That guy sees more hogs in a week, than you'll see in your next 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9........................................ outings.

P.S. You and the worm keep up the strong SHIFTWORK!!

 

[sancho]

hey..CHAT?

i never even notice a chat room. when is the next learning session? i truly do not see enough pigs.

 

[bpnclark]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huntingbret @ Jan 11 2009, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Flatbroke, with an avatar like that, I'm afraid to look at you....even talk to you on the chat lines. Scary! I will simply wait for others to respond.[/b]

 

[map]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huntingbret @ Jan 11 2009, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Flatbroke, with an avatar like that, I'm afraid to look at you....even talk to you on the chat lines. Scary! I will simply wait for others to respond.[/b]

Bret,

I also feel uncomfortable looking at that avatar. Looking at a man's naked body is not my cup of tea.

Richard

 

[Flatbroke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mapmaker @ Jan 11 2009, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Back during 2001 I was active here, making over 1100 posts, on Jesses (original) Trail Camera Forum But, with having a boy who wanted to hunt, there was no real need for socializing or joining group hunting parties. We more or less faded into the woodwork,Richard[/b]

Richard,

I can truly appreciate the statement in your first post since coming back to this forum. I too have children and often ask myself why I participate in Internet forums. I as well enjoy woodworking but have not joined in any of the forums.

I for one participate in these forums to provide others with pictures and stories to keep them motivated and share experiences. I believe all person on this forum share the same love and respect for the outdoors as my parents instilled in me and I try to instill in my offspring. I don't particularly care for some of Bretts posts but in the interest of trying to help a fellow outdoors man I offered to help share some of my experiences in a real time conversation. I don't know it all, nor have I done it all. but I feel comfortable saying I have done and seen more than some, and less than others.

I agree with you in I do not care to see naked men. Having said that the picture in my avatar is dressed appropriately to walk without fear of repercussion in most towns or Cities that I know of. He may not be able to enter private establishments but that's subject to the respective proprietors rules and regulations.

You have done a great job assisting other members by providing your knowledge of maps. I am not a map user, I leave that to bigworm. I was trying to share some other type of useful information, may work may not. you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.

I anxiously await the story an photos after the 3-4 hours sitting by the brush pile.

 

[bigworm]

If I were going to research if a member was worth listening too, I would check his previous threads. Maybe see if he posted many successful hunts. Possibly even see if he hunts with any other members on here. Check their posts as well. Although his avatar may be questionable, I doubt his knowledge, or motives to help you were. Like they say never slap a gift horse in the face.

Worse case, listen to what he has to say, see if it makes sense. But maybe you didn't have time too. You were busy sifting through all the other responses and info.

I am a bit partial due to the fact he and I hunt together. I can also tell you he likes to goof around at times. All of this aside he has hunted hogs his whole life. He has a wealth of knowledge to share. I have also hunted with other members of his family. They have been hunting for generations, and there is a fair amount of knowledge there.

 

[spectr17]

Enough already,. If you have a problem here DO NOT hijack someone else's thread over it, Hit the "Report Post" button.

Can we PLEASE get back on topic and leave the nonsense out for a change? Frankly I'm getting tired of babysitting and cleaning up the messes in this hog forum. If you don't have anything positive to offer then move along.

 

[myfriendis410]

Back on topic: Is it worthwhile to set up on recent rooting sign?

Sometimes.

I'm not trying to be obscure, but it has been our experience that rooting this time of year is often the actions of juvenile hogs, practicing their digging skills. There is some rooting going on for worms or tubers, but more seems to be just general tearing-up. Most of what we see in hog activity now is eating grass, and that leaves a much more subtle trace.

If I had no other activity showing, I might set up close to any heavy brush, particularly on a north facing slope to see what might be in there. What we always do is get up high and overlook large areas and glass glass glass. Blundering around in the brush rarely does any good and if there are hogs there you are liable to just spook them out of there. Not knowing what kind of country you are hunting doesn't help. Lots of good areas don't HAVE a high overlook. That's a big problem in some of the areas we hunt; lots of hogs, just no way to know where they'll be that day.

 

[Nic Barca]

Not sure how far pigs travel over there but out here in Hawaii- ...depending on where you are and the conditions of the area- feral hogs tend to have small home hanges, particularly where food and water are in good supply. The less food and water, the farther the animal might need to travel during the day, or seasonally. One study showed that they bed during the middle of the day and work over an area within close proximity to the bed throughout the night. If you see fresh track, odds are that any undisturbed pig that made them (provided it's in a feeding area and the time of day is right) is likely close by and will pass by again soon.

Then, I know other areas where the pigs bed down on the cliffs, then each night travel down to the valley bottoms to feed before working their way back uphill. The trails to and from these bedding areas would be great ambush sites if the wind wasn't so swirly.

Pigs out here form dens or find caves and may stay in a particularly den or set of dens on a regular basis depending on which is closest to their feeding area.

So basically, yes, watching over a newly rooted area would be a good place to start.

 

[huntingbret]

Funny thing was that all around the area where my brother ran into the fresh rootings were very thick brushes. There was a small and low trail and, like he said, he had to crawl in some places. Reaching the top there was an open area no more than 25 yards in diameter. He and his friends stayed at the top and watched the thick brushes where the rootings seemed to end and didn't see anything. At 6pm that night, they gave up and came home. The pigs may have escaped this time but hopefully, there will be different results next time. Thanks everyone!

 

[Live2hunt]

Bret,

Is it possible to walk in a big circle around the rooting areas and the surrounding thick stuffs? You want to start walking where you don't see rootings. Keep your eyes on the ground for tracks and rootings but also be looking out for pigs at the same time. No matter how big of a circle you will make, you want to close all pig activities inside the circle. Sometimes you make a big circle and find the pig tracks lead out of it in a trail. Then they split up a couple canyon over and started rooting again. You again make another circle. Sometimes you end up making many circles before you can close them in. I've seen up to 10 circles per day and some of them as big as half a mile in diameter. If your full circle shows no tracks leading out of it, you can narrow it down to where they might be and setup there. Or if it's doable, toss some rocks in where you think they might be and see what comes out. Good luck man.



L2H