Pigs ???

[bloodsports]

I have found some land that is adjacent to Tejon Ranch that is loaded with pig signs. The land is an almond orchard and according to the owner, the pigs come in at night and are demolishing is crop.

Heres my question.:

If Iam lucky enough to get a shot off at one of these pigs and before he expires, he gets back onto Tejon Prop. could I legally go after him??

 

[Two Rugers]

Don't know but I'll be more than happy to go with you and guard the fence

 

[Nor cal 64]

As I understand it, if the he drops in another area that you don't have permission to hunt on, you run the risk of a citation. Be careful!

 

[DILPRXO]

I'm really not sure what the law is regarding.Just acouple thoughts..if the hogs are feeding there at night set up....between them and the Tejon property...early in the morning...spot/hit them as they are on their way out..hopefully they will run away from you(the threat) and back into the orchard. Since I haven't seen the area first hand I don't know whether this is practical or not but most orchards are set up in a pretty organized fashion try and use that to your advantage.Use as large a caliber as you can hit with decisively..so not only are the odds favoring a "dropping" shot increased but you'll get bigger gore trail as a result if you do have to track.Use the gore trail as evidence that the hog was initailly hit in the grove not on Tejon..and you were just trying to be a responsible hunter by following up. A slow push through the grove at first light with a 12ga & slugs starting from the Tejon side of the orchard might just be the ticket.
Good luck

 

[Bishop]

Nope, but if you ask permission they will probably let you recover your animal. Keep Barbara or Don Grivets phone number. If you can't get a hold of them call DFG and see if a warden will help as a go between. Or shoot him thru the shoulders and drop him on the spot.

 

[bigtusker]

You need permission to pursue an animal onto another property no matter where he was when you pulled the trigger. Shoot 'em in the head and he won't go anywhere. Shoot 'em anywhere else except maybe the spine and you risk a chase. I have seen hogs shot thru the chest with .300's run 200 + yards. Believe me, I have seen a lot of hogs die, I have seen quite a few big boars taken with a .243 w/50 grain bullets and a .22-250. All dropped in their tracks, all shot in the brain.

 

[MrMullen]

Originally posted by bloodsports@Dec 18 2002, 11:38 AM
I have found some land that is adjacent to Tejon Ranch that is loaded with pig signs. The land is an almond orchard and according to the owner, the pigs come in at night and are demolishing is crop.

Heres my question.:

If Iam lucky enough to get a shot off at one of these pigs and before he expires, he gets back onto Tejon Prop. could I legally go after him??

If the hogs are feasting on Almonds, they must be tasty as tasty can get. Umm....

As for going after a pig that is wonded by you and it falls on another land, it's still tresspassing. You should contact Tejon Ranch since they, most likely, will try to maintain a good relationship with their neighbors. The pigs and their hunting are part of the Tejon Ranch business, they should let you fetch a dead pig from their property that has caused damage next to the Tejon Ranch.

BTW: If you need help, let me know.

 

[machine]

Get a harpoon, and reel it in!

 

[yotegetter]

Man!!! You're a lucky guy to get access like that!

 

[Speckmisser]

Bloodsports,

It sounds dangerous. Those almond-fed pigs are feisty and quite treacherous. I think you may need my help.

As to your question, it was answered pretty well. You are required, by law, to make all reasonable efforts to retrieve your game. If your animal crosses onto private property, you are supposed to contact the property owner to request access. If you are denied, you may contact DFG or the local law enforcement authorities to request their intervention.

But like the guys said, if you're tracking a wounded critter onto Tejon property, I can't imagine they'd turn you down. You may have to leave your gun across the fence, though. Might be a good idea to contact Tejon before you start hunting, and see if you can pre-arrange something just in case.

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

The guys hit the nail on the head here. You need permission to recover YOUR animal on someone elses property. Shouldnt be to hard to get it from Tejon, if you explain what happended. Good Luck...Oh by the way, whats the GPS coordinates on the land you found?

 

[bloodsports]

Thanks guys!! Forgive me for not giving directions, I just found the spot last Sun. while hunting dove. Ill let you guys know how I do.


Oh by the way there are tons of dove around that area also.. Two friends and myself shot limits ( 30 ) by 7:30am on Sun.

 

[songdog]

Don and Barbara are good folk and shouldn't give you grief. In this case, where you know how to contact them, that's the best bet. In past (out of state) circumstances I've left my gun on the other side of the fence and gone to retreive my (birds in this case) animal. At least this way the landowner knows that you're not actively hunting on his property. This has made for a few interesting times though when the critter wasn't quite completely expired and you don't have a gun... but that's another story.

 

[sportyg]

Hmmm, If you need my help draging a pig let me know.. Oh by the way where are those dove...

 

[BLASTMASTER]

Let me see...first I find a map of Tejon, then transcribe it over terraserver photos, and look for orchards.
Hmmmm...

 

[HOGHUNTER714]

If its the area that I'm thinking of, Bloodsports is lucky. I did a drive around the outskirts of Tejon not to long ago and remember seeing something similiar to what was described. Never pursued it, dont know who owns the land. Sounds like you did your homework, goodluck to you..Hope you get a pig or two.

 

[bubba]

Like everyone has said, you definitely need permission to get the animal. If that fails call the game warden. My uncle was in the same situation with a deer a couple of years ago. The buck went into a neighboring property then expired. The owners where anti's adn would not let him retrieve the animal he harvested. The game warden showed up and told my uncle to retrieve the deer.

I don't think you'll have a problem with Tejon.

 

[Kickaha]

Hey bubba, that's an interesting story.

Can a game warden legally let a hunter retrieve a deer on private property when the property owner has specifically stated that the hunter cannot go onto the property? I would think no. Maybe give permission when the owner cannot be contacted, but not when the owner is available and says no.

BTW, congratulations on the find Bloodsports. Being an almond orchard though, it sounds like that's private property. If so, make sure you have written permission there as well.

 

[Lever-action-lover]

Where is Tejon ranch? I think its the one near Bakersfield...Or maybe im way off?