Rifle Range

[7magHunter]

What caliber works best in Ca for pig hunting, a short range or long one?
I have a 7 mm Rem Mag, but some guy that works at Turners Outdoorsman got me ol confused?

He said my rifle wouldn't kill a pig at short range 50- 150 or so yards, because the bullet would go through the hog, and I need to get a 44 mag, 30-30 or 45/70 rifle?
can someone comfirm this? Any personal experience with the 7mag or any other long range caliber at short range on pigs or any other big game, or these calibers are only effective beyond 200 yards???
It sounded to me he was trying to sell me something.

 

[hunt hard]

Its an All around rifle i seen what that gun can do at 60 yards it does damage.

 

[hogwild757]

Stick with it Ive harvested quite a few pigs with a 7MM to 30yds, Recently posted a pic of a hog my buddy harvested with a 7mm weatherby mag. When I hunt with a rifle I used a 270 and its basically the same caliber necked down. My wife uses a 243, I harvested one of my biggest hogs with 308 cal and took him 28 yards while he was sleeping in his bed. its what you are comfortble with and shoot good. Most outfitters will tell you its ok if you decide to hunt with a Outfitter.

If you read my post Ft hunter leggett hog My buddy shot this hog with a 7mm 139gr sp and he was 100 yds or so. After dressing out the hog the bullet did alot of damage but did not past through. I preferbly shoot 154 gr and I get big damage and past through. My wife harvested a Cow tulie Elk and Ft hunter leggett at 236 yds a few years ago with the same 154 gr bullet and it was a past through but did alot of damage. The elk went 20 yds and expired. I have freind who hunt hogs with a 6mm. It shot placement you need to concerned off. Hit a hog where it does vital damage with a quick humane kill is the ethical way to go. Good luck to you and hope this help you out. Remember good shot placement cannot be stressed enough.

http://www.weatherby.com/products/ammo.asp?prd_id=5

http://www.federalcartridge.com/ballistics...earm=1&s1=1

 

[Gyopo]

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the bullet would go through the hog,[/b]

I would think that this would help the pig drain.

Person behind the counter is there to sell stuff.

I also have seen 7 Rem damage, and it can be extensive.
The only issue at CLOSE range might be bullet fragmanetion on a steep angled shot.
Good bullet should help avoid this.

Don't forget to leave the scope on a low power if you have a variable scope.
Not too fun looking at a close animal through 9X magnification.

Don't stress it and just shoot.

 

[tradman]

Consider the source of the information.

Aside from that, I would imagine putting a 7mm hole through the heart/lungs of anything alive would facilitate it's death.

 

[Speckmisser]

Yupp... person behind the counter needs some education before he starts talking about what'll kill what. Sounds to me like he's got a bad case of the "I heard somewhere that..."

Unless you're shooting full metal jacket ammo (illegal for hunting in CA and some other states), you'll kill him plenty dead at close range a heck of a lot more consistently than you will at long range.

 

[boarcrz]

Shots are usually close so personally I wouldn't tote around 7mm mag but it would definitely do the job. But I would rather shoot 7mm mag and walk 10 yards to retrieve the downed pig than shoot something of marginal round and look for it all night with a flash light. I don't know about others but most of my pig hunting areas are about 4 hour drive so I would like to come home as soon as the hunt ends

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[hntboar]

boarcrz-
it sounds like you need to get closer to the hog hunting areas so you do not have to drive 4 hours to get home.

just move and

really missed you last weekend.

hntboar

 

[7magHunter]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Speckmisser @ Jan 18 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yupp... person behind the counter needs some education before he starts talking about what'll kill what. Sounds to me like he's got a bad case of the "I heard somewhere that..."[/b]

Thanks everyone!
It didn't make any sense to me what this guy behind the counter told me, by the way he's the Manager.
I was trying to make a point, but this guy at Turner's Outdoorsman didn't want me to have the last word, I think is my fault I shouldn't ask him anything, it sounded more like an argument than a normal conversation
Why is that ol these gun salesman have an attitude of "I KNOW EVERYTHING", and what you have in home is no good, and our stuff is always better, I understand they try to sell, but they should ol go back to training again LOL

, I need to find a local gun shop without the attitude, or wait for the next gun show in my area.

 

[dw33]

Yes, a 7 mag will in all likelihood pass through the animal, but it will be dead - the pig might not know it right away, but it's time is up. I shot a forked-horn this year with my 7 mag, (162 gr.) at fifty yards and both bullets went right through it. The deer trotted away, but we found it later. There was quite a bit of internal damage when we field dressed it.

 

[7magHunter]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dw33 @ Jan 18 2007, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yes, a 7 mag will in all likelihood pass through the animal, but it will be dead - the pig might not know it right away, but it's time is up. I shot a forked-horn this year with my 7 mag, (162 gr.) at fifty yards and both bullets went right through it. The deer trotted away, but we found it later. There was quite a bit of internal damage when we field dressed it.[/b]

So, maybe I should reload some 160 or 175 gr to a lower velocity? like to a starting point or somewhere in the middle but not to the max, can a lower charge with a heavy bullet do the trick for a close shot?? and still effective about out to 250 yards?
Can we compare a deer to a pig, I always thought pigs are harder to kill than deer?

 

[Speckmisser]

7mag,

I'd strongly recommend simply forgetting your discussion with the guy at Turners, and forget this thread too.

The worst handicap any hunter can have, no matter what they are shooting, is a lack of confidence in their tools. The moment you start to second guess and hesitate, you're done.

The 7mag shooting hot rounds or factory will do just fine. Sure, it's a little overkill for smaller pigs or deer, but overkill is an OK problem to have. If anything, stick to a good, non-explosive bullet like a partition or core-lokt. Otherwise... if it shoots good, use it and forget about all the theorizing.

 

[hogwild757]

What grain bullet are you shooting? Or did you read my post about shot placement why do you think bow hunter gets alot of hogs its all about shot placement. But you do need a good bullet that don't fall apart a keep and retain its energy.. I've taking hogs with a130 BTSP by federal one shot. you need to trust your equipment it will do what you do.ENOUGH SAID.

 

[PIGIG]

7mag i have seen so many hogs shot with a 7mag i cant even try to put a number on it!!! it is my top choice of any rifle, get a beer and forget this thread even started

 

[Rancho Loco]

The slack-jawed cretin obviously spends a lot more time behind the counter than shooting pigs.

 

[7magHunter]

Ok don't get mad at me I haven't posted in a year or so, is my turn now!
Anyway a different thread now!
I want to buy a lever gun maybe a Marlin or Win, which caliber you people like the best for pigs
the 30-30 or 44 mag, I never had a lever action before and I was thinking to get one that can be very effective on pigs and fun at the range.
Any comments??????

 

[Rancho Loco]

.30-30 for general utility..Short barrelled .45-70 or .444 or .450 for brush bomber.

 

[D7hunter]

I shot my buck this year with a 7mag at about 40 yards, the first shot was a little back. he fell in his tracks got up and stubbled about 10 yards where the next shot stopped him for good. Both shots under 50 yards the 7mag will do the job. The last rifle I purshased they offered to bore site the gun I told the guy I like to be about 2 inch high at 100 yards and the guy looked at me like I was........ well just say I turned the offer down.

 

[7magHunter]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rancho Loco @ Jan 18 2007, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

.30-30 for general utility..Short barrelled .45-70 or .444 or .450 for brush bomber.[/b]

Thanks,
but We ol know the 45-70, 444 and 450 are great calibers for pig and even elk but any of these calibers will leave a hole in my wallet at the shooting range about a $2.00+ a bang, that's why I was asking between the 30-30 and 44 mag, I read about good thing about the 44 mag carbine with solid cast bullets, I was thinking to get the Marlin 1894CB ? 44 mag 10 shot mag?

 

[scott0san]

I have shot 2 pigs this year with my 7WSM.
The first was 80yrds with a 150grn Federal Fusion load that knocked the pig over sideways and he didn't move. the round didn't pass through..
The second was a frontal head shot at 50 yrds with a Trophy bonded Bear Claw 160grn. This is an elk round and made a complete pass through (head to tail)
In the end it all boils down to bullet placement