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Didn't want to hijack so figured I'd start a new thread. This one is simple. A running catchdog is a catchdog that you run loose. Nothing more, nothing less. If a dog does nothing but catch, it's a catchdog, and it doesn't matter how you hunt it. Period. If it barks, it's a baydog. If a dog finds it's own hog and bays it till you and other baydogs, catchdogs, and you arrive, it's a strike dog. If a dog grabs on when other dogs get there or when the catch dog catches, it's not a catch dog, it's a bay or strike dog. All bay and strike hogdogs are gritty or their worthless and they will grab on to a hog if they're worth feeding. If all a dog will do is bark but not put the teeth to the hog when needed then why would a hog ever stop?

As far as catchdogs go, most of 'em are some type of Bully breed. This is because they are gritty enough to run in, grab on, and hang on without regard for his/her well being. Most breeds just don't have that in them. It is your responsibility to do it right so your dogs don't get killed because a good catchdog will catch weather you're ready or not. Running catchdogs are usually a cross between a bully breed and some cur dog type so they have some running gear under them but still have enough of the bulldog come out that they only catch. Examples would be a Pit/Catahoula, or an American Bulldog/BMC, or a Dogo/cur, the possibilities are endless. You could also just use an American Bulldog or any straight pit or Dogo but they won't have the nose to find anything and usually won't have the stamina to run for any length of time. That said, most times when someone uses running catchdogs, their races are a couple of hundred yards or less anyway and most often they are turned out when the hogs are actually seen or are known to be in the immediate area.

A running catchdog is used most times in areas that are really rediculously thick where the hog will get away if it makes it to the thick stuff like the southern states have. The swamps and briars that are impenetrable. Hogs learn and know what dogs are pretty fast so if they hear a bark some will make a beeline for the thick stuff especially if they know they can get away if they make it there. Difference is, most times you don't run your catchdog loose because they get themselves killed. If your dogs are locked onto the head of a hog you obviously have to be very close or you would never know where they are without any barking. Even one hundred yards is damn near to far to hear if they are not barking. Guys that use this method are usually new to the sport and just want to catch hogs but don't have good strike dogs, or they hunt extremely thick areas where this is about the only way to be successful, or are eradicating in populated areas where you can't have dogs barking all over the place.

There is a ton of misinformation out there so it is hard to know who to listen to, especially online and especially with guys that run dogs. Most info gets tossed out by guys that are completely new to whats going on and don't know crap. I know I can't stand to be on any hogdog boards for more than 30 seconds and all you get is a load of crap by guys that obviously couldn't find a hog in an 8x10 pen. This place, although not a hog dog board, is at least pretty damn good about not spreading a lot of misinformation so I figured I'd jump in and and give my two cents. Hope this clears things up.
 

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Good post. I agree with the catch dog info. Some folks prefer the loose baying, wont put a tooth on a hog strike dog (I do not and dont understand why anybody would feed them). I have hunted behind a couple in Texas, They had great noses and while it works for them, the chases can be long if the hog doesnt stop or help dogs dont arrive and they track quit a bit, not my cup of tea.
 

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great post! thanks for the info. I always wanted to know what bay,catch, and strike meant.
 

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I've hunted behind dogs before. I've not seen a catch dog yet. We would release 4 or 5 dogs into a canyon. Then sit and listen. Once we hear barkings we head in for the chase. Some of the dogs I hunted with doesn't let the hog go very far. If it's a small hog, it's either dead or mortally wounded by the time we get there. If it's a big mean boar and it tries to run, the same two dogs would circle infront of it to stop him. Those two dogs are the ones I want. They always keep a distance of about 5 feet away from the hog while barking at it. What are they called? (strike, bay, catch, or something else) The rest of the dogs would just let the boar run and chase after him.




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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Jan 18 2009, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
thanks for correcting me bayedsolid[/b]
I don't know where I corrected you Ev. All the info I have seen you post has been right on. One of these days when I get back to the island I wouldn't mind meeting up and chasing some critters around if you want.
 

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New here.
Does anyone use Portuguese Podengo Grandes on pigs?
Thanks,
Danidog.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bayedsolid @ Jan 19 2009, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Jan 18 2009, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks for correcting me bayedsolid[/b]
I don't know where I corrected you Ev. All the info I have seen you post has been right on. One of these days when I get back to the island I wouldn't mind meeting up and chasing some critters around if you want.
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any time...let me know
 
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