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Now I walk in on foot. I will go for a couple of days. I glass a lot several days before the season's open. Do you like the tri pod they offer? Weight is a issue.
 

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If weight is an issue then go with 65. 45.2oz vs 39.1oz. I used mine alot this year and was real happy. This is my first year using hish end spotters and frankly was disappointed at the early light capabilities. I started out the year with an 85MM Zeiss, which as you can see is a bigger glass than Swaro offers but still wasn't much more useful. The bottom line is, if you look at exit pupil, even with the 80MM Swaro at the lowest vari setting of 20x, then you only have a 4MM exit pupil, which is much less than the human eye can use, so you are still limited. Now we were looking at deer and elk at 2-5 miles, so you need alot of light and clean calm air to really field judge at that distance anyway.
 

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I'd go with the Swaro 65, then pick up a top notch tripod and head!! That's a deadly combo for the backcountry.
 

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I like the 80 (a bunch more light gathering at low light conditions) the down size is the weight. Like AS said, get a good tri-pod and head!
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richardoutwest @ Dec 11 2007, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I like the 80 (a bunch more light gathering at low light conditions) the down size is the weight. Like AS said, get a good tri-pod and head![/b]

I did a side by side comparison with my 65 and my buddys 80. Both on tripods fixed on the same objects one evening. Needless to say my buddy was pretty upset that he spent more money and had a larger scope that gathered hardly any more light at dusk than my 65. My .02
 

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then you only have a 4MM exit pupil, which is much less than the human eye can use<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>

it's really not much less....the typical daytime pupil size is appx 4mm....you are really only limited by a 4mm exit pupil at dusk...and even then...really not that much. I have Zeiss 10x40's...mine have excellent light transmission at dusk and even at night. Sometimes the quality of the glass and lens coatings used are more important than exit pupil size...I'm sure a 65mm Swarovski scope looks a lot better than an 80mm bargain scope.
 

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Just be aware the is a Swaro 80 and a Swaro 80 HD. HD (High Definition) helps to eradicate the slightest chromatic zonal aberrations and contributes to a truer color image. I had a Swaro 80 HD and it's the best scope glass I've ever looked through. Bout a $600-700 difference in price too compared to a plain Swaro 80.
 

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